Re: Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Thu, 05 December 2019 21:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping
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Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 18:23:34 -0300
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Ole,

On 5/12/19 17:57, otroan@employees.org wrote:
> Ron,
> 
>> Currently, there is no consensus that IPv6 allows insertion of extension headers by intermediate nodes, even if those intermediate nodes are segment endpoints . Given this lack of consensus, the authors of network programming have wisely agreed to remove header insertion from the draft.
>>  
>> Likewise, there is no consensus that IPv6 allows removal of extension headers by intermediate nodes, even if those intermediate nodes are segment endpoints. Why, then, have the authors of network programming not agreed to remove PSP from the draft?
> 
> With regards to working group process; may I gently remind you that it is the chairs that call consensus.

At the time of this writing, there's no document that has been adopted
to update RFC8200 to allow for EH insertion/removal.

Therefore, it's actually the other way around: unless there's such
document (which there isn't, since such a document has never been
adopted by 6man), the onus is on folks trying to change the status quo.
And that case, progressing the document "as is" would be an outright
violation of our existing standards.

This has been repeated numerous times already.

I think we are at a point where the ADs should take action. Most
importantly Int-AD, since the spec being violated is RFC8200.

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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