Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-00.txt

"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Mon, 05 July 2021 20:56 UTC

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
CC: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "Nick Hilliard" <nick@foobar.org>, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-00.txt
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Same here; this looks like a much needed bug fix.


Regards,

Pascal

> Le 5 juil. 2021 à 22:53, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Eric,
> 
> I think that we believed we were making it more implementable, and there
> was certainly cross-checking within the IETF. And there will be this time
> (with ART, not Transport, however).
> 
> What we missed last time was any direct interaction with WHATWG. I'm not
> even sure that WHATWG existed then.
> 
> We're listening to the comments about Ted's point, of course.
> 
> Regards
>   Brian Carpenter
> 
>> On 06-Jul-21 02:44, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
>> <without any hat>
>> 
>> I agree with Nick:
>> 
>> 1/ the paragraph identified by Ted can only bring confusion (e.g., when 
> comparing two URI for the same address), so, better remove this kludge from the I-D [1]
>> 2/ getting feedback from transport area is probably required for the URI syntax
>> 
>> In addition and with my AD hat, I am slightly annoyed that the lack of willingness to implement was not detected during the IETF Last Call in 2012.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> -éric
>> 
>> [1] and this will be a real value for the bis document else I do not think that the -bis is really useful
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
>> Date: Monday, 5 July 2021 at 12:31
>> To: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
>> Cc: 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>rg>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-00.txt
>> 
>>    Ted Hardie wrote on 05/07/2021 09:06:
>>> I think the proposal is much cleaner without this, and I encourage you 
>>> to reconsider including it.
>> 
>>    yip, agreed. This looks like it may be troublesome to implement, with 
>>    marginal benefit.
>> 
>>    Otherwise the ID update is useful and it would be good to get input 
> from 
>>    the URI + browser people to see whether they think that it's workable.
>> 
>>    Nick
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