Re: RFC6434bis open issue - RFC4191 text
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Tue, 07 November 2017 12:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: RFC6434bis open issue - RFC4191 text
To: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
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From: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 09:49:12 -0300
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On 11/07/2017 09:15 AM, Tim Chown wrote: > Hi, > >> On 7 Nov 2017, at 12:11, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote: >> >> On 11/07/2017 08:48 AM, Tim Chown wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> TimW and I would like to get some list feedback on some open issues in the draft in advance of the Singapore WG session. >>> >>> The first topic is whether the text on RFC4191 is now acceptable, i.e.: >>> >>> — snip — >>> >>> 5.9. Default Router Preferences and More-Specific Routes - RFC 4191 >>> >>> "Default Router Preferences and More-Specific Routes" [RFC4191] >>> provides support for nodes attached to multiple (different) networks, >>> each providing routers that advertise themselves as default routers >>> via Router Advertisements. In some scenarios, one router may provide >>> connectivity to destinations the other router does not, and choosing >>> the "wrong" default router can result in reachability failures. In >>> order to resolve this scenario IPv6 Nodes MUST implement [RFC4191] >>> and SHOULD implement Type C host role. >> >> Without looking at RFC4191... I assume this "Type C" thing is part of >> FC4191, and hence s asubset of it? >> >> Then I wonder if the text should read: MUST implement Type C host role, >> and SHOULD implement RFC4191? (You want the Type C functionality, and >> implementing the rest of rfc4191 is desired, but not required?) > > It’s in Section 3.1 of RFC4191; the crux of it is: May question would be: What you want is that all hosts iplement RFC4191, and that by default they behave like Type C hosts? If so, I'd say something like "MUST implement RFC4191 and SHOULD employ the Type C host model" ("*implement* Type C host model" was a bit confusing to me). -- but ...well.. English as second language here, so... >> In any case: since RFC4191 has stuff for routers and for hosts, and >> "Node" (as in "node requirements") encompasses both hosts and routers... >> What kind of requirements we want for host and routers? The same level >> of requirements for both? Or something else? > > Node Requirements is focused on hosts, but not exclusively. Router-specific functionality is included in one section, see https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-02#section-14. Me, I'd use "hosts" if you refer only to functionality expected in only hosts, "routers" when it is only meant for routers, and "nodes" when referring to both. > > There is also draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs-00 over in v6ops, but that’s not been updated since May as far as I can tell. It would be interesting to know if the authors are still progressing this. I’ll pop Russ a mail. Good grief! Thanks! Cheers, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
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