Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt
Mohacsi Janos <mohacsi@niif.hu> Wed, 16 March 2011 12:46 UTC
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:48:05 +0100
From: Mohacsi Janos <mohacsi@niif.hu>
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Subject: Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt
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Cc: Christian Huitema <huitema@microsoft.com>, "ipv6@ietf.org" <ipv6@ietf.org>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Ran Atkinson <ran.atkinson@gmail.com>
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Fernando Gont wrote: > On 16/03/2011 03:30 a.m., Christian Huitema wrote: >>> Then what's all this controversy with >>> draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions? :-) -- That aside, >>> there have been quite a few publications asessing the real >>> "privacy" provided with the so-called privacy-extensions.... >> >> Using randomized host identifiers is way more private than sticking a >> MAC address in the IPv6 address. > > Agreed. Also in some scenarios privacy extensions may give a false sense > of privacy (see e.g. some of the pointers in our I-D). > > >> In fact, rather than your draft >> proposing to not use privacy addresses, we should pursue the >> deprecation of using EUI-64 in addresses. > > Our draft is not meant to propose "not to use privacy addresses" -- as > noted a few times, already, the proposed mechanism could be used to turn > "privacy addresses" on for some systems that have decided not to enable > them by default (e.g., FreeBSD). > As RFC 4941 says: Changed the default setting for usage of temporary addresses to be disabled. and also: " Additionally, sites might wish to selectively enable or disable the use of temporary addresses for some prefixes. For example, a site might wish to disable temporary address generation for "Unique local" [ULA] prefixes while still generating temporary addresses for all other global prefixes. Another site might wish to enable temporary address generation only for the prefixes 2001::/16 and 2002::/16, while disabling it for all other prefixes. To support this behavior, implementations SHOULD provide a way to enable and disable generation of temporary addresses for specific prefix subranges. This per- prefix setting SHOULD override the global settings on the node with respect to the specified prefix subranges. Note that the pre-prefix setting can be applied at any granularity, and not necessarily on a per-subnet basis. " Best Regards, Jans Mohacsi
- draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt Ran Atkinson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… huabing yu
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… RJ Atkinson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… james woodyatt
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… RJ Atkinson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Dan Wing
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Ran Atkinson
- Re: RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensio… Cameron Byrne
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… james woodyatt
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Paul Chilton
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Dan Wing
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Dan Wing
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Christian Huitema
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Doug Barton
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Thomas Narten
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Townsley
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Townsley
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Scott W Brim
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… sthaug
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Christian Huitema
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Christian Huitema
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Doug Barton
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Ole Troan
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Christian Huitema
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… sthaug
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian Haley
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mohacsi Janos
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Yu Hua bing
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Rémi Després
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith