Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-shore-icmp-aup
"Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com> Sat, 28 December 2013 16:20 UTC
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From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>
To: Ray Hunter <v6ops@globis.net>
Subject: Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-shore-icmp-aup
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Ray, On Dec 14, 2013, at 7:18 AM, Ray Hunter <v6ops@globis.net> wrote: > > > Ole Troan wrote: >> All, >> >> Our AD has requested that the 6MAN working group review this document. This is part of our chartered work >> to review documents produced outside of 6MAN, that may extend or change the IPv6 protocol. >> >> This message starts a one week 6MAN Working Group Last Call for a review of: >> >> Title : An Acceptable Use Policy for New ICMP Types and Codes >> Author(s) : M. Shore, C. Pignataro >> Filename : draft-shore-icmp-aup-07 >> Pages : 9 >> Date : 2013-12-05 >> >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shore-icmp-aup-07 >> >> as a BCP. Substantive comments and statements of support for advancing this document should be directed to the mailing list. >> Editorial suggestions can be sent to the authors. This last call will end on December 20, 2013. >> >> As with our regular working group last calls, the chairs would like to solicit one or two people in the working group >> to do a detailed review of the document. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bob Hinden & Ole Trøan > > I read the draft. It is pretty easy to read and straight forward. Thanks! > > I don't understand the underlying concerns. The motivation is not > included in the draft (I guess I'd have to go to the WG mailing list to > get that information) The main motivation is to have a documented basis to decline ICMP uses when ICMP is inappropriate, for example using ICMP as a substitute to SNMP. > > Why should ICMP be limited? > The document aims at striking a balance and to have a document that is useful but not overly restrictive. The last couple of revisions have basically been polishing that balance, as the document received great feedback that improved it. The most recent from Ran Atkinson, who also highlighted the need for explicitly checking this list, in addition to making the spec more precise and less restrictive. As for "why?" hopefully Section 3 and especially Section 4 of the document answer that. > Does ICMPv6 really need to be so limited if it is only used for on-link > communication using link-local addresses? It is not so limited -- I believe that the other recent piece of feedback on this list (and upcoming -08) will clarify even more as it makes some examples explicit. Thanks again for the review and comments! Carlos. > > -- > Regards, > RayH >
- 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-shore-icmp-aup Ole Troan
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-shore-icmp-aup 神明達哉
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-shore-icmp-aup Ray Hunter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-shore-icmp-aup Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-shore-icmp-aup Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-shore-icmp-aup 神明達哉