Re: I-D Action: draft-troan-6man-p2p-ethernet-00.txt

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 02 December 2020 21:58 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-troan-6man-p2p-ethernet-00.txt
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Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> 1. Even if we had new improved switches and hosts, they would for many
    >> years be mixed with unimproved switches and hosts on the old (emulated
    >> yellow cable) model. It's already bad enough when you mix switches
    >> that do MLD with dumb switches that really do only emulate yellow
    >> cable.

    > On my home network, the switches making up the wired portion of the
    > network are not managed nor are they routers.  The mesh router/APs are
    > routers, I suspect that the two Ethernet ports on each node are routed.
    > I suspect that most home and SME switches are not routers.

I think that the majority of people who have switches on the wired portion of
their network are (us) Geeks.
Many of us wish we had managed switches.
(I do: now it's "obsolete" because it needs TLS 1.0 to be managed)

A great deal of the population has the four ports on on the back of their
router/AP.... and believe it not, if they need ore ports, they buy a second
router/AP if they need more ports, and then screw up their network with
either multiple layers of NAT44, or dueling DHCPv4 servers.

So I actually disagree.

    >> Which all takes us back to homenet, doesn't it?

    > At least as much as it needs to deal with a mix of what I will call
    > routers with a lot of ports, and generic L2 switches.

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