Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (OMNI)

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Mon, 19 October 2020 17:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (OMNI)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:00:56 -0700
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To: "Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
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Fred,

I think most people read SLA as Site-Local Address, especially since you are proposing to use the prefix defined in RFC3513:

   Site-local unicast   1111111011           FEC0::/10       2.5.6

In my view any proposal to reuse this prefix, will need to deal with the issues raised in RFC 3879, the document that deprecated this prefix.   This would need its own document that would obsolete RFC 3879.  It would also need to investigate if deployed hosts and routers block these prefixes.

Bob




> On Oct 19, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
>>> There are very good reasons why SLA were deprecated, I don’t see a reason to change that.  ULAs are intended to replace the use
>> of
>>> SLAs.
>> 
>> OMNI Is a good reason to re-instate SLAs. OMNI will also want to use ULAs, but for
>> other and non-overlapping purposes.
> 
> Before this discussion goes too much further, I want to point out that the term "SLA"
> has never been used in association with "Site Local Address" prior to the use in OMNI
> and these current list discussions; the term was introduced by me, but I would not like
> for it to retroactively refer to "site" because it never has before in the past. So, I would
> like to propose that we break that connection starting now.
> 
> What OMNI needs is an address range that is unique within the scope of a layer-2
> spanning tree manifested by a service that joins together the segments of a
> (segmented) link. So, I propose we rename fec0::/10 for its use in OMNI as one
> of the following:
> 
> "Spanning-tree Local Addresses (SLA)"
> "Service Local Addresses (SLA)"
> "Segment Local Addresses (SLA)"
> 
> The term "site" is not relevant to OMNI and would no longer be used in that
> context (once we submit a document update, that is). Would that address
> the concern?
> 
> Thanks - Fred