Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry
David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> Wed, 09 December 2020 17:20 UTC
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From: David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 11:20:37 -0600
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Subject: Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry
To: Nico Schottelius <nico.schottelius@ungleich.ch>
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First, please don't do this. As has been said, it is unnecessary and will, unfortunately, lead some people to make erroneous conclusions. You are trying to coordinate something that was intended to be uncoordinated, and therefore you are trying to make ULA into something it wasn't intended to be. If you insist on doing this, please don't call it a Registry; that will imply it is something akin to the RIRs and that will lead people to make the erroneous conclusions I referred to. Furthermore, calling it a Registry raises the questions like; Is it mandatory to register your ULA prefix? Does the registry represent all ULA prefixes? Possible words to use for this; Diary, Catalog, Journal, Ledger, Log, just don't call it a Registry. Furthermore, clearly, statie use is optional and by definition it is incomplete, Thanks On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 5:19 PM Nico Schottelius < nico.schottelius@ungleich.ch> wrote: > > Good morning, > > we have just launched a ULA registry [0] as part of our IPv6 advent > calander [1]. While the reception, openness and opinions of whether or > not there should be a ULA registry at all differ, a ULA registry has > been requested multiple times from our customers in the past. > > The source code of the ULA registry is fully Open Source and can be > found on [2]. It currently operates using the fd00::/8 subnet, whereas > draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-02 [3] suggests that RFC4193 should be followed for > that subnet and fc00::/8 should have been taken for a ULA registry. > > However the original SixXS database records [4] on which we based our > work operatios in fd00::/8 and according to wikipedia [5] there is no > consensus over fc00::/8 in the IETF. > > Speaking for ungleich, we do not use ULA ourselves, however our users > do. In this regard our position is somewhat neutral with the focus of > "enable users to move forward with IPv6". > > However in the spirit of collaboration and finding a consensus for a ULA > registration, we could imagine phasing in fc00::/8 as the default prefix > for generating new prefixes while keeping the historic information of > the previously registered prefixes that originally came from SixXS. > > Looking forward to your feedback. > > Best regards from the snowy mountains in Switzerland, > > Nico > > [0] https://ula.ungleich.ch/ > [1] https://ungleich.ch/u/advent-calendar/06/ > [2] https://code.ungleich.ch/ungleich-public/ipv6ula > [3] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-02 > [4] https://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ula/list/ > [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unique_local_address > > -- > Modern, affordable, Swiss Virtual Machines. Visit www.datacenterlight.ch > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
- Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA … Nico Schottelius
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Fernando Gont
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Nico Schottelius
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Nico Schottelius
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Laun… Manfredi (US), Albert E
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Fernando Gont
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Fernando Gont
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Fernando Gont
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Nick Hilliard
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Nico Schottelius
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Ted Hardie
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Nico Schottelius
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Fernando Gont
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Philip Homburg
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Nick Hilliard
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Ted Hardie
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … David Farmer
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Mark Smith
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Philip Homburg
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Laun… Manfredi (US), Albert E
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Laun… Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Laun… Manfredi (US), Albert E
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Laun… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 … Brian E Carpenter
- For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re… Nico Schottelius
- Re: For whom is IPv6? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Ted Lemon
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Michael Richardson
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… David Farmer
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Michael Richardson
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Nick Hilliard
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Mark Andrews
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… David Farmer
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Fernando Gont
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Fernando Gont
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Fernando Gont
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Nick Hilliard
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Michael Richardson
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Michael Richardson
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Michael Richardson
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… David Farmer
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Fred Baker
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… David Farmer
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Philip Homburg
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Nico Schottelius
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Nico Schottelius
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Nico Schottelius
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Nico Schottelius
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Nico Schottelius
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Jens Link
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… David Farmer
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Philip Homburg
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Nick Hilliard
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Mark Andrews
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… David Farmer
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Michael Richardson
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day… Nico Schottelius