Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (OMNI)

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Thu, 15 October 2020 20:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (OMNI)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 13:28:36 -0700
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Fred,

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> That circles us right back to the subject of how RFC4861 is intrinsically tied to
>>> the use of link-local address and the fact that all IPv6 interfaces are required
>>> to configure a unique link-local address. It would be a bear to try to change
>>> that, so OMNI employs RFC2473 encapsulation instead of trying to override
>>> the bedrock IPv6 standards. The use of RFC2473 encapsulation also brings
>>> other important benefits.
>> 
>> Right, that how ND works.   Seems to me that you are proposing many changes to IPv6 for some degree of optimization.   It’s unclear
>> to me that the benefit outweighs the cost.
> 
> Rather than repeating them again here, I would invite you to go back over the
> message exchanges I had with Ole yesterday (10/14/2020) where I outlined the
> benefits.

I read that, but was not convinced that the benefits were sufficient to justify what you are proposing.

> About changes to IPv6, all that has been asked so far is for the OMNI
> interface to define its own link-local addresses - having that, none of the IPv6
> standards like RFC4861, RFC8200 etc. are changed.

The OMNI draft updated RFC1191, RFC3879, RFC4291, RFC4443, and RFC8201.

Bob