Re: [v6ops] Combining IPv6 ND and DHCPv6 into a single, unified function

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 23 November 2017 18:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Combining IPv6 ND and DHCPv6 into a single, unified function
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Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> My understanding is that Fred Templin essentially wants to carry DHCP
    >> (configuration) options in ND/RA.

    > On thing that I have never understood is the lack of an RA option that
    > carries any DHCPv6 option. This entire silly debate would end if RAs
    > encompassed DHCP options.

I think that this is mostly what Fred wants to define.

Apparently he also wants to do stateful DHCPv6 things (such as PD), which I
am much less enthusiastic about putting into RAs/NDs as they cease to be
idempotent.

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