Re: Status of <draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-16.txt> in AUTH48

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 22 February 2017 01:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: Status of <draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-16.txt> in AUTH48
From: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
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On Feb 21, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
> Is a statement like "I do not support" *without any rationale* of value?

I think it's a fact. People, myself among them, said they didn't support it. The discussion, or at least most of it, was public.

I'll repeat my rationale. If one is filing an individual submission, and especially one through the independent stream, I suppose one can say in it pretty much what one wants. If we're discussing a working group draft, we are documenting the consensus of a working group. I don't recall the working group reviewing an acknowledgement of the members of a family or a particular Argentine athlete (Diego Maradona); that text came in without review or consensus during AUTH48. Further, if one reviews the ~8000 RFCs that have already made it through the mill, none come to mind that contain such an acknowledgement. The people acknowledged in RFCs are people who commented on or otherwise made some contribution to the document.

Speaking for myself, I think the acknowledgement is out of place in a working group product, especially if there is no obvious consensus supporting it. Bob ran a poll, and reports the consensus as he perceives it. As working group chair he is empowered to determine what that consensus is. From my perspective, his report on that is the end of the discussion, not a data point in the middle of it, nor the start of a new one. That's his job, and the power we give him.