Re: IETF: SixXS is shutting down

Song Linjian (Davey) <songlinjian@gmail.com> Sun, 26 March 2017 21:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF: SixXS is shutting down
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 15:23:58 -0500
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Cc: Pim van Pelt <pim@ipng.nl>, ipv6@ietf.org, SixXS Staff <info@sixxs.net>
To: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@massar.ch>
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Chicken and egg problem is the same : 

ISP complains there is no content in IPv6, no requirement from user for IPv6 connection. ICP complains there is no IPv6 network and IPv6 user 

China is different from India because it can not leap by taking the advantage of IPv6 development of big global ICPs, like Google , Facebook, and Youtube. Besides, most netizens in China do not consume much content in English. Most of people can live well without connections outside. So the only hope is on the local ICP like Baidu , Tencent and Alibaba. But the local ICP and ISP are in the early stage of Chicken and egg problem.

Most IPv6 stories from China are from research and academic network , and some pilots from Telcos supported by national IPv6 developing fundings. But They are for the purpose of research and demonstration of innovation ,not for commercial and productional purpose.

That’s what I am sighing for.

Davey

> 在 2017年3月26日,09:55,Jeroen Massar <jeroen@massar.ch <mailto:jeroen@massar.ch>> 写道:
> 
> On 2017-03-26 16:36, Song Linjian (Davey) wrote:
>> Sigh! When people think IPv6 tunnel become a hinder of IPv6 deployment,
>> people in China still in the struggle of chicken and egg problem. 
> 
> Please explain more about your "chicken and egg problem" and how the
> last 20 years of IPv6 deployment have not addressed those problems.
> 
> Greets,
> Jeroen
> 
> 

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Davey Song(宋林健)
BII Lab
songlinjian@gmail.com <mailto:songlinjian@gmail.com>