Re: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming: NH=59 action item closure

Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Wed, 18 September 2019 01:13 UTC

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From: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:13:18 +1000
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Subject: Re: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming: NH=59 action item closure
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>, SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>, "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>, "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril@cisco.com>
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On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 06:33 Brian E Carpenter, <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ron,
>
> You wrote:
>
> > Isn't this [the Opaque header] also creating an opportunity for IETF WGs
> to bypass IANA, creating their own registry, likely run badly?
>
> More than that, it's creating an opportunity for operators to bypass IETF
> standards as well as IANA.
>
> Isn't that the essence of this whole discussion?
>
> They can do it anyway, but defining the code point at least makes it
> possible for firewalls to discard such traffic if it escapes. Hence my
> comment about draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering.
>


The word "opaque" means (from Google "meaning opaque"),

"not able to be seen through; not transparent"

If a protocol is opaque or not transparent to the IETF then that would mean
somebody else owns it; it's their property rather than the IETFs.

So somebody else's protocol being referred to by the IETF would fit the
definition of "proprietary":

"relating to an owner or ownership"


So I think Proprietary would be a much more accurate name for this option
if it were to go ahead.

I'd much rather it didn't so we had a transparent and open IETF protocol.

Regards,
Mark.


> Regards
>    Brian
>