Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?]
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Mon, 26 September 2022 23:46 UTC
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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 19:46:08 -0400
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Subject: Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?]
To: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>
Cc: 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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The use case we are talking about here is a managed enterprise network. It should be no problem for the network operator to configure some local ra options. Op ma 26 sep. 2022 om 19:17 schreef Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> > > > On Mon, 26 Sept 2022, 21:15 Vasilenko Eduard, <vasilenko.eduard= > 40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> > > But how remote ULA prefix would be known to the local router? If >> >It can't, which is fine. >> >If there are multiple ULAs after a merger, then we do what Brian and >> David described and send RIOs or PIOs. >> >> It is evident that A=0 is for something non-local. >> > > A=0 means the opposite of A=1, and A=1 has a specific meaning, nothing to > do with non-local. > > Define another flag if this is going to be the solution to the fault of > putting ULA AAAAs in global DNS. > > (Can it be adapted to the fault of putting link-local addresses in DNS?) > > > It would be especially needed if /64 would be put into the SASA policy >> table (then the remote prefix would be /64 too). >> It may be needed for different /48 after the company merge. >> >> How to know what to put in this special PIO (A=L=0)? It looks like not >> automated at all. >> > > A sign that it's not solving the problem where it exists. > > > >> Ed/ >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Richardson [mailto:mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca] >> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 1:45 PM >> To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com>; 6man WG < >> ipv6@ietf.org> >> Subject: Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] >> >> >> Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com> wrote: >> >> Now as to how to fix this without a global precedence for ULAs, I >> am >> >> wondering about a PIO with L=0 and A=0 (exactly as recommended in >> RFC >> >> 8028, but for other reasons). If a host sees such a PIO for a ULA >> >> prefix, it could serve as a signal that the prefix is to be given a >> >> suitable precedence, even though it is not on-link and not used for >> >> SLAAC. >> >> >> I really like this. I think it is the best solution. >> >> > But how remote ULA prefix would be known to the local router? If >> >> It can't, which is fine. >> >> If there are multiple ULAs after a merger, then we do what Brian and >> David described and send RIOs or PIOs. >> >> > proper routing is in place then no problem exists in the first >> place, >> > the whole FC/7 could be prioritized. >> >> I don't think that non-local ULAs *should* be prioritized. >> I think that it's actually a problem as more and more sites use ULA for >> significant internal things, and those addresses leak into other sites. >> >> >> -- >> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= >> IPv6 IoT consulting =- >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
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- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Nick Buraglio
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Brian E Carpenter
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- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Nick Buraglio
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- Re: RFC6724-bis? Tim Chown
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- Re: RFC6724-bis? Bob Hinden
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Brian E Carpenter
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Mark Smith
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC6724-bis? David Farmer
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Mark Smith
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC6724-bis? David Farmer
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Brian E Carpenter
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? David Farmer
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Nick Buraglio
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC6724-bis? David Farmer
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Nick Buraglio
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Nick Buraglio
- Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] David Farmer
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Michael Richardson
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian Carpenter
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Michael Richardson
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Nick Buraglio
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Mark Smith
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Ted Lemon
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] David Farmer
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Mark Smith
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Michael Richardson
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] David Farmer
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] David Farmer
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Ole Troan
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Ole Troan
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Timothy Winters
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Nick Buraglio
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian Carpenter
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Ole Troan
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian Carpenter
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Ole Troan
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] David Farmer
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Michael Richardson
- Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?] Ted Lemon
- RE: RFC6724-bis? Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Nick Buraglio
- Re: RFC6724-bis? Michael Richardson