Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.txt

Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> Thu, 15 December 2011 20:21 UTC

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On 12/15/11 2:07 PM, Roger Jørgensen wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2011 7:32 PM, "Brian Haberman" <brian@innovationslab.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>     Unfortunately, the draft is in a limbo state at this point.  The WG
>> Last Call ended about a month ago with zero comments or statements of
>> support.  The chairs cannot advance this document without some show of
>> support by the community.
>>
>>     I humbly request that members of the working group review this
>> draft and post their comments, questions, and suggestions to the mailing
>> list.
> 
> Brian Carpenter said it all in this post:
> 
> Message-ID: <4EB9D332.1040003@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:11:14 +1300
> From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
> 
> <snip>
> Reading this document as a proposed standard, I think it will confuse
> the reader. I think that what we actually need is a 100% replacement
> of RFC 3484, that can be read on its own.
> </snip>
> 

Ah, you are correct.  That message ended up in the wrong mailbox and I
missed it when reviewing the state of the draft in response to Chris' query.

Thanks, Roger.

Brian