Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.txt
Joe Abley <jabley@ca.afilias.info> Thu, 10 May 2007 21:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.txt
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On 10-May-2007, at 11:38, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: > At Thu, 10 May 2007 09:50:01 -0400, > Brian Haberman wrote: >>> The sentence could be modified in : >>> >>> "Compliant IPv6 hosts and routers MUST NOT process RH0 in packets >>> addressed to them. Those packets MUST be dropped without further >>> processing. In particular, the value of the Segments Left field >>> MUST not be considered." >>> >> >> This is much clearer and easier to implement. > > Though I am not a router vendor I am the person who has to handle this > on FreeBSD. I like the above sentence as well. The above sentences far more closely resemble what I meant to write, compared to the text that actually appeared in the draft :-) I note that KAME's response to this is similar, but it's not clear to me that it's precisely identical: a patched KAME implementation treats the type 0 routing header as an unknown routing header (according to <http://www.kame.net/newsletter/20070502/>). This suggests to me that a patched KAME implementation will process a datagram containing RH0, but that RH0 header(s) in the datagram will not be acted upon. I would welcome corrections to my feeble assumptions in this area (I have done no tests, nor read any source code to confirm). A packet containing RH0 presumably is intended not to be processed on the system identified by the destination address field; if it was, no RH0 would be present. This suggests to me that "MUST drop" is the right thing, rather than "process as if RH0 was not there"; in addition, if we assume that today any packet with RH0 is likely to be malicious, any processing of a packet containing RH0 which has the potential to result in backscatter seems like it should properly be avoided. Joe -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
- I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.txt Jeroen Massar
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Joe Abley
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Pekka Savola
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Ebalard, Arnaud
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Brian Haberman
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Jari Arkko
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Jeroen Massar
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Pekka Savola
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Ebalard, Arnaud
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Jeroen Massar
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Ebalard, Arnaud
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… George V. Neville-Neil
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… David Malone
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Joe Abley
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… gnn
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino 2.0
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… David Malone
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino 2.0
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Ebalard, Arnaud
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Ebalard, Arnaud
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Guillaume Valadon / ギョーム バラドン
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino 2.0
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Guillaume Valadon / ギョーム バラドン
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… George V. Neville-Neil
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… David Malone
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Tim Enos
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino 2.0
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Ebalard, Arnaud
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… David Malone
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Joe Abley
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Joe Abley
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… David Malone
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… Guillaume Valadon / ギョーム バラドン
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-jabley-ipv6-rh0-is-evil-00.t… David Malone
- Routing Header Type 0 way forward Brian Haberman