Re: Why one Internet?
Pars Mutaf <pars.mutaf@gmail.com> Wed, 11 April 2012 08:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: Why one Internet?
From: Pars Mutaf <pars.mutaf@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Mohacsi Janos <mohacsi@niif.hu> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Pars Mutaf wrote: > > >> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Manfredi, Albert E < >> albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com> wrote: >> >> Yes, that was also my reaction. Why one Internet? Because Internet >> means tying together multiple separate networks. Of course you can have the >> same >> addresses on the different networks. Nothing new there either. >> That?s why we have NATs, NAPTs, and IPv6 NPTs. >> >> >> >> >> No one is forcing an ISP or an enterprise network to use a >> combination of protocols. They can already opt to be IPv4 only, or IPv6 >> only, or dual >> stack, or eventually IPv7. Matter of fact, years ago, our enterprise >> had an assortment of different networks, tied together by Softswitch >> gateways. >> IPv4, SNA, DECnet. >> >> >> >> >> I have no problem with anyone. I am facing my own illusions. >> >> Here is my conclusion after years of work on IPv6. >> >> IPv6 guy is just a salesman. >> >> But the salesman thought the entire world should buy his product. >> > > Not, but a reasonable technology for go forward with. > > >> The product cannot change. >> > > Wrong, See evolution of IPv6 in the past 10 years - lot has been changed - > due to better understanding of requirements and drawback of certain > solutions. > > > >> There is no other product. >> > > Yes there are, but ipv6 seems to be most reasonable at the moment. > > > >> Not even sure the product was really needed. >> > > See ipng work in the late 90's - it was requirement driven. > > >> Complete delusion. >> > > > Please describe your conception in details - we can compare solutions > based on technical merits. > Sorry I don't see the problem yet. I wouldn't design a solution nor discuss its details. Designing the future makes me suffer. Pars > Best Regards, > Janos Mohacsi > > > >> Pars >> >> >> >> Bert >> >> >> >> From: ipv6-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo >> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:54 PM >> To: Pars Mutaf >> Cc: ipv6@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: Why one Internet? >> >> >> >> Wasn't this what the Internet was supposed to be? I'm tempted to ask how >> old you are, but I don't want to be rude. >> >> As the Monty Python would put it: 'You see, the key is in the name - >> Inter - net(work)' >> >> :-) >> >> cheers >> >> Carlos >> >> >> >>
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