Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-11.txt>

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fri, 20 May 2016 08:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-11.txt>
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Le 19/05/2016 à 22:34, Brian E Carpenter a écrit :
> On 19/05/2016 21:10, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: ...
>> So how to test whether it's random?
>
> Answering your question in case anybody doesn't realise that it is
> rhetorical:
>
> It is impossible (actually, meaningless) to test whether a single
> value is random.
>
> 1234 is a perfectly fine random decimal number. So
> 14159265358979323846.
>
> 0xE8039A3C677A is a perfectly fine random hexadecimal number. It
> might be an Ethernet address. Or not.

Yes, and the surveillant knows it: seeing a number does not mean it's a
MAC address.  Always seeing the same number does not mean it's the same
person (maybe it's someone pretending to be that poor person, in order
to fool the surveillant).

Alex

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> Brian
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