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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [v6ops] Scope of Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses (Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-6man-ipv6-ula-scope-00.txt)

"Manfredi (US), Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com> Thu, 18 February 2021 23:39 UTC

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From: "Manfredi (US), Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com>
To: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
CC: IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org>, "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [v6ops] Scope of Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses (Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-6man-ipv6-ula-scope-00.txt)
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From: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Fernando Gont

> Well, this is a spec inconsistency. You have one spec (RFC4007) defining 
"scope" and "global scope", and another specs:
>
> a) making use of the same terms in an incorrect way, or,
>
> b) employing same terms but with a different definition.
>
> i.e., either the definition in RFC4007 is incorrect, or the use in 
RFC4193 and implicit use in RFC4291 is incorrect.

You can also argue, if there are prefix bits sent in the clear, and those prefix bits are used to send the packets to a pre-determined gateway, and that gateway is then used to decrypt all of the remaining address bits, then route packets through a walled garden intranet with global span, then global scope could still apply.

Just sayin'. These still aren't like RFC 1918.

Bert

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