Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fri, 03 March 2017 09:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
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From: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
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Le 02/03/2017 à 23:48, Mark Andrews a écrit : > > In message <6b89579e-62e8-dfb5-070e-b08989b9492a@gmail.com>, > Alexandre Petrescu writes: >> Le 02/03/2017 20:25, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ a crit : >>> I understood from one of your previous emails that 3GPP doesnt >>> require DHCPv6-PD. >> >> Right - if I understand correctly, it does not require DHCPv6-PD on >> the UE. Maybe in the core, but not in the UE. >> >>> RFC6653, suggest its use, so probably we got confused ourselves >>> and 3GPP is actually using it. >>> >>> 6rd is a different thing, because is actually IPv4 link and IPv6 >>> is a tunnel, so you typically use DHCP (v4). >> >> I agree. >> >>> In IPv6-only world (including cellular), the WAN link will be >>> IPv6-only instead of dual-stack. This is already happening. >>> >>> If they dont use it, I guess is the same reason why big vendors >>> didnt implemented yet RDDNS >> >> I wonder if Windows refusing RDNSS doesn't have somehting to do >> with its Teredo; and extending this logic to smartphones: the lack >> of answers to DHCPv6-PD issued from the UE may have something to >> do with 464xlat presence. >> >> Could it be that 464xlat presence on UE makes it that DHCPv6-PD is >> impossible on same UE? > > No. They are or should be orthogonal. One is about providing IPv4 > as as service. The other is about providing IPv6 address space. I can agree. With my operator I asked her once 'why not giving DHCPc6-PD to smartphone' and she replied 'because now we do 464xlat on the smartphone, and that is sufficient'. As such it sounds illogical statement, although I guess s/he has some reasons to say so. But let me ask differently: maybe it's because 464xlat requires some kernel version that DHCPv6-PD doestn support, or vice-versa? Maybe it's because once you run 464xlat on smartphone it takes control of the unique default route and DHCPv6-PD couldnt? Some reason like that? Has one tried DHCPv6-PD software simultaneosuly with 464xlat? (even knowing the cellular operator would not reply to DHCPv6 Slicitations). >>> Cellular world is using 464XLAT, and they use DHCPv6-PD. Check >>> RFC6877. >> >> I guess you mean cellular stations (like BS, not the User >> Equipment) uses DHCPv6-PD within the fixed network. > > No, the UE should be using DHCPv6-PD. This is how tethered > equipement should be getting IPv6 address space. I agree with yuo. This is why I dont understand the cellular operators dont do DHCPv6-PD. And I guess it is so because they are told it's sufficient to run the 64share INFORMATIONAL RFC. Are the people advising 64share to tethering-willing telecom operators conscious it's non-interoperable? Is the 64share advice coming together with the claim there are enough /64s out there? Alex >> Because cellular operator I am aware of replies to DHCPv6-PD >> requests issued from an User Equipment. >> >> Alex >> >>> >>> Saludos, Jordi >>> >>> >>> -----Mensaje original----- De: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> en >>> nombre de Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> >>> Responder a: <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fecha: jueves, 2 de >>> marzo de 2017, 20:15 Para: <ipv6@ietf.org> Asunto: Re: Objection >>> to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 02/03/2017 20:06, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ a crit : >>>> I guess because the lack of DHCPv6-PD support, as you already >>>> indicated? >>> >>> But for deity's sake - DHCPv6-PD is available as open source... >>> it's common software. Just download and install. The IETF Specs >>> suggest it, and the 3GPP specs require it too. >>> >>> There must be something else making these router equipment >>> manufacturers refraining from downloading and installing >>> DHCPv6-PD. >>> >>>> I think majority of the households and business customers get >>>> configured the CPE by means for DHCPv6-PD >>> >>> AFAIK my CPE at home does not use DHCPv6-PD, but something based >>> on IPv4, like 6rd. I think it's something developped in-house >>> at that particular operator. >>> >>> Alex >>> >>>> >>>> Saludos, Jordi >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Mensaje original----- De: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> en >>>> nombre de Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> >>>> Responder a: <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fecha: jueves, 2 >>>> de marzo de 2017, 20:02 Para: <ipv6@ietf.org> Asunto: Re: >>>> Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 02/03/2017 19:54, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ a crit : >>>>> Actually, is not correct that most use /56 for residential. >>>>> >>>>>> From my last review of the survey, worldwide, 22% use /48, >>>>>> 35% use /56, but there is a lot of ISPs (33%) doing it >>>>>> wrong and using /64, which of course, we are explaining >>>>>> them that is wrong. 10% use other sizes. >>>> >>>> So how comes that households can get /56s but smartphones no? >>>> >>>> Really there must be something there hidden. >>>> >>>> Alex >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Full details at: >>>>> >>>>> >> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/jordipaletm/results-of-the-ipv6-deployment-s >> >> >> >> urvey >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Saludos, Jordi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Mensaje original----- De: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> >>>>> en nombre de Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> >>>>> Organizacin: People's Front Against WWW Responder a: >>>>> <swmike@swm.pp.se> Fecha: jueves, 2 de marzo de 2017, 19:33 >>>>> Para: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> CC: >>>>> <ipv6@ietf.org> Asunto: Re: Objection to >>>>> draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> YEs yes, but how much of that /44 is covering the >>>>>> end-users and how much is reserved for interconnnections? >>>>> >>>>> Nothing. It's /44 to the GGSN/SPGW. >>>>> >>>>>> Ah great, but I guess few cellular operators (if any?) are >>>>>> LIRs. Or maybe that's true and I didnt know. >>>>> >>>>> You don't know. >>>>> >>>>>> If all this were that simple and clearcut - there are >>>>>> enough /64s out there - then why operators only assign one >>>>>> per one end user? >>>>> >>>>> Because DHCPv6-PD hasn't been implemented in mobile networks >>>>> yet (that I know of). So that's all they can do per 3GPP >>>>> standards. >>>>> >>>>> Residential rollouts, most use /56 per customer. >>>>> >>>>>> From the RIRs, you can without further justification get >>>>>> /48 per "site", >>>>> so if you show up to RIR and you're LIR and you say "hello, >>>>> I have 40 million customers and I want to give each customer >>>>> a /48" then they'll give you a /22 most likely. 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- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Job Snijders
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Peter Hessler
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Pierre Pfister
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Mark Smith
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Iván Arce
- RE: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Job Snijders
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Mark Smith
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt james woodyatt
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt james woodyatt
- RE: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt james woodyatt
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Christopher Morrow
- RE: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt mohamed.boucadair
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Peter Hessler
- RE: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt mohamed.boucadair
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Sander Steffann
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Nick Hilliard
- RE: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt mohamed.boucadair
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Christopher Morrow
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt james woodyatt
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Christopher Morrow
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Pierre Pfister
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt David Farmer
- RE: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Christopher Morrow
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt David Farmer
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Christopher Morrow
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt David Farmer
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt David Farmer
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Xing Li
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Xing Li
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Mark Smith
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Mark Smith
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt David Farmer
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt james woodyatt
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt David Farmer
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Greg Hankins
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt sthaug
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt sthaug
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Greg Hankins
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt sthaug
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- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt otroan
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Dan Lüdtke
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt sthaug
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt David Farmer
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt David Farmer
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Iván Arce
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Iván Arce
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Mark Smith
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Iván Arce
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Erik Kline
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Tore Anderson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Iván Arce
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Tore Anderson
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- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Tore Anderson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Sander Steffann
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Mark Andrews
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt 神明達哉
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Job Snijders
- RE: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt mohamed.boucadair
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt otroan
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Ca By
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… 神明達哉
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt 神明達哉
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… 神明達哉
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Fred Baker
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Philip Homburg
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Christian Huitema
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt 神明達哉
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt 神明達哉
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt 神明達哉
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Simon Hobson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Simon Hobson
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt otroan
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.tx… otroan
- Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt Alexandre Petrescu