RE: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?
Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> Thu, 28 May 2020 11:41 UTC
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From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
To: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>, 6MAN <6man@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?
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It will be very interesting to run an analysis on the list of all these people suddnely objecting – to see how many of them have ever posted before – and will ever post again. But – I trust the chairs to recognize and balance against an external dos of support by what looks like many individuals from the same entity. Will see if I can get around to scripting an analysis of all the new voices – will make for an interesting read 😊 Andrew From: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Mark Smith Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:23 To: 6MAN <6man@ietf.org> Subject: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from? I've been an active participant in the ipng, 6man and v6ops IETF working groups since 2002. While I've only been to one IETF meeting in person since then (106, sponsored by the Internet Society), over that time I've come to recognise the names of many of the regular and active participants in these IPv6 working groups. I do not recognise many of the names of people who are objecting to the 6man working group adopting the CRH draft. Those who have been active 6man participants in recent years would know that even an ID adopted by 6man, written by Bob and Brian, that had a number of revisions, didn't survive WG last call, and that occurred while Bob was (as he still is) one of the 6man WG chairs. Regards, Mark.
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