Re: [ire] XML rgpStatus definition
"Gould, James" <JGould@verisign.com> Thu, 22 October 2015 15:30 UTC
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From: "Gould, James" <JGould@verisign.com>
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Subject: Re: [ire] XML rgpStatus definition
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Patrick, Grace periods typically don’t apply across registrar transfers, so why would they apply across registry transfers? Would the EBERO providers be willing to provide grace period credits for transactions they never received funds for? Going down the path of trying to get the grace periods to transfer will lead to a large list of issues. My recommendation is for the grace periods to only be applicable within the life of an individual registry, meaning they do not transfer upon failure to an EBERO provider or from an EBERO provider back to a registry. — JG [cid:77031CC3-BE7A-4188-A95F-D23115A30A4D@vcorp.ad.vrsn.com] James Gould Distinguished Engineer jgould@Verisign.com 703-948-3271 12061 Bluemont Way Reston, VA 20190 VerisignInc.com<http://VerisignInc.com> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Patrick Mevzek <Patrick.Mevzek@afnic.fr<mailto:Patrick.Mevzek@afnic.fr>> wrote: Le jeudi 22 octobre 2015 à 14:44 +0000, Gould, James a écrit : Will the gaining registry operator really provide grace period credits? It would be interesting to hear from the EBERO providers what they will or should support related to grace periods and credits. Grace periods is not persisted in our registries and is not applicable for escrow. I agree with you that it (storing or recomputing) is a local decision by each registry. We may overthink the problem right now because indeed it depends on what the EBERO will do for domains concerned by grace periods. And that case has not been seen yet AFAIK. However, if there is no dates in the escrow at all, it makes it impossible or very difficult for EBEROs to apply refunds (if they want to do it of course), while if it is optionally in the escrow (and up to the registry generating the escrow to provide it or now), then EBEROs who want to do it can do it (and the others would not care about this piece of data). -- Patrick Mevzek
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