Re: [ire] Variant Domain Names
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Mon, 08 April 2013 16:49 UTC
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I have no idea how those terms got adopted, but I'd like to point out the distinctions that were made by the variant issues project/IDN TLD project: Delegated: actually in a zone with an SOA and parent NS RRset. Activated: in the DNS somehow. (Delegated is a species of activated. For instance, a DNAME would be activated but not delegated.) Allocated: someone has administrative control over the name, but it is not activated. For instance, any domain on Hold in EPP would be allocated. Blocked: nobody is allowed to register the name. For instance, in .com nobody may register the label example (so example.com is blocked). I think these distinctions are all extremely useful. On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 12:07:18PM -0400, Bhadresh Modi wrote: > I agree - we were using the "allocated" value in the previous revision to > differentiate between IDN variants that simply blocked registration and > variants that would actual resolve similar to the original domain name. > With the omission of this value there is no longer any way to express this. > > Regards, > Bhadresh > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:29 AM, James Mitchell < > james.mitchell@ausregistry.com.au> wrote: > > > Gustavo, > > > > I would like the nameState of NNDNs to include "activated". The > > "allocated" value was in revision –01, however seems to have disappeared > > without reason? Adding "allocated" would make the NNDN consistent with the > > text in Section 6 that states that either domain objects or NNDNs may be > > used to represent variants. > > > > Also, the NNDN <crDate> should be optional as some registries may not > > track the creation date of reserved list entries. > > > > Regards, > > James > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ire mailing list > > ire@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ire > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ire mailing list > ire@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ire -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
- [ire] Variant Domain Names James Mitchell
- Re: [ire] Variant Domain Names Bhadresh Modi
- Re: [ire] Variant Domain Names Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [ire] Variant Domain Names Bhadresh Modi
- Re: [ire] Variant Domain Names James Mitchell
- Re: [ire] Variant Domain Names Gustavo Lozano