Re: [ire] Variant Domain Names

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Mon, 08 April 2013 16:49 UTC

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I have no idea how those terms got adopted, but I'd like to point out
the distinctions that were made by the variant issues project/IDN TLD
project:

Delegated: actually in a zone with an SOA and parent NS RRset.

Activated: in the DNS somehow.  (Delegated is a species of activated.
For instance, a DNAME would be activated but not delegated.)

Allocated: someone has administrative control over the name, but it is
not activated.  For instance, any domain on Hold in EPP would be
allocated.

Blocked: nobody is allowed to register the name.  For instance, in
.com nobody may register the label example (so example.com is
blocked).

I think these distinctions are all extremely useful.

On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 12:07:18PM -0400, Bhadresh Modi wrote:
> I agree - we were using the "allocated" value in the previous revision to
> differentiate between IDN variants that simply blocked registration and
> variants that would actual resolve similar to the original domain name.
>  With the omission of this value there is no longer any way to express this.
> 
> Regards,
> Bhadresh
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:29 AM, James Mitchell <
> james.mitchell@ausregistry.com.au>; wrote:
> 
> > Gustavo,
> >
> > I would like the nameState of NNDNs to include "activated". The
> > "allocated" value was in revision –01, however seems to have disappeared
> > without reason? Adding "allocated" would make the NNDN consistent with the
> > text in Section 6 that states that either domain objects or NNDNs may be
> > used to represent variants.
> >
> > Also, the NNDN <crDate> should be optional as some registries may not
> > track the creation date of reserved list entries.
> >
> > Regards,
> > James
> >
> >
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