Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS
Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Wed, 08 August 2012 04:01 UTC
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From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS
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The requirement for topology export is DEFINITELY part of IRS. It is a crucial piece for a meaningful feedback loop. Clearly there are existing technology pieces that may have a role to play as well. Alia On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com> wrote: > Oh, I meant in Nitin's description in the mailing list, there are 3 sub-layers of a orchestrator. > Top layer: Northboundapi > Middle layer: IRS > Bottom layer: topo export > > Therefore, the topo export is not part of IRS. It is another layer which sits below IRS. > > Tina > > On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:30 PM, "Alia Atlas" <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Topology export is definitely under the umbrella of IRS - and we are >> actively starting to think about the associated requirements and >> use-cases. Feel free to contribute - on the list or towards drafts! >> >> Alia >> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com> wrote: >>> Nitin said topo information export is on the sub-layer under IRS. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> >>> >>> From: irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On >>> Behalf Of Edward Crabbe >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 3:20 PM >>> To: robert@raszuk.net >>> Cc: irs-discuss@ietf.org >>> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert, >>> >>> >>> >>> If topo information export is in scope (which I believe it is) and PBR route >>> injection with nh recursion to rib (and thus connected routes) is in scope >>> (which I'm quite sure it is) then yes, this is in scope. >>> >>> >>> >>> Although I'm not sure what it has to do with OF /OF controllers? ;P >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> This morning Scott mentioned that he would like to use IRS to shut down all >>> protocols and just be able to write to RIB. Now James said that he would >>> like to get a network topology as "every OpenFlow controller requires this" >>> >>> Both connected together resulted in an idea of using multi-topology-routing >>> where your base topology discovers physical link connectivity graph while >>> other topologies could be programmed by external entities example: OF >>> controllers or any other external to routers network intelligence oracles to >>> deliver actual services ? >>> >>> Would that be in scope of IRS effort ? If so what would be the proposed >>> "write to RIB" set of protocols ? Would you support OF 1.3 even if one would >>> be happy to lock such topologies only to software/programmable switching >>> paths ? >>> >>> Best rgs, >>> R. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> irs-discuss mailing list >>> irs-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> irs-discuss mailing list >>> irs-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss >>>
- [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Robert Raszuk
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Lin Han
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Edward Crabbe
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Tina TSOU
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Tina TSOU
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Tina TSOU
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Tina TSOU
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Robert Raszuk
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS David Meyer
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Scott Whyte