Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments
Lin Han <Lin.Han@huawei.com> Wed, 08 August 2012 23:17 UTC
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From: Lin Han <Lin.Han@huawei.com>
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Similar confusion by wisely avoidance -:) If possible, Someone can draw a simple picture of IRS location in a router with existence of other components. Also, I think people are confused by the comparison with SDN and OF. More clarification will be helpful. Lin -----Original Message----- From: irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gert Grammel Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 6:41 PM To: Thomas Nadeau; Lenny Giuliano; Alia Atlas Cc: irs-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Tom, It is confusing to understand whether IRS belongs to a new network management plane or if it's more of a control plane extension. The draft wisely avoids this classification. To me IRS appears to be a completely different beast which should best be characterized as 'Network Programming Plane' NPP. It neither aims to do full provisioning (as a management plane would do) nor aims to replace routing (as a control plane would do). Hence we better name the baby NPP -- thereby avoiding any linkage to taxation. Gert ----- Original Message ----- From: irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org <irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org> To: Lenny Giuliano; Alia Atlas Cc: irs-discuss@ietf.org <irs-discuss@ietf.org> Sent: Tue Jul 31 01:50:40 2012 Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments [Re-adding IRS] Thank you for reviewing and the comments. We will incorporate the edits in the next rev. --Tom On 7/30/12 5:04 PM, "Lenny Giuliano" <lenny@juniper.net> wrote: > >Minor points: > >-section 4, para 2, 3rd sentence, "Howeve,r" > >-4.1.3 "There is no bidirectional programmatic interface to add, modify, > remove or read state from the multicast RIB." > -How is this unique to mcast? Couldn't you say the same thing > about unicast? > >-4.1.3 "The multicast state added need not match to well-known protocol > installed state. For instance, traffic received on an specified set, > or all, interfaces that is destined to a particular prefix from all > sources or a particular prefix could be subject to the specified > replication." > -Not clear to me at all what this para is saying. > >-"IRS"- you may want to select a different acronym that isn't related to >something as unpopular as taxation (something we learned with AMT). >Maybe >RSI instead... > >Overall, I found the doc to be clearly written and straightforward. >Sounds like Openflow for routers. Not sure if it's intentional that you >didn't mention Openflow, but it did seem like an elephant in the room as >I >was reading thru. Also, I did wonder what was new and novel here, as >this >sounded like our SDK which has been around for years. > > >-Lenny _______________________________________________ irs-discuss mailing list irs-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss _______________________________________________ irs-discuss mailing list irs-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Gert Grammel
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Gert Grammel
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Lin Han
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Lin Han
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Lin Han
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Susan Hares
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- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Gert Grammel
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- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Gert Grammel
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- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Lin Han
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- [irs-discuss] 答复: 答复: IRS comments Mach Chen
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- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Edward Crabbe
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal)
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal)
- Re: [irs-discuss] IRS comments Edward Crabbe
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