Re: [irs-discuss] Rough Draft IRS Charter

Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.net> Sun, 04 November 2012 18:43 UTC

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From: Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.net>
To: Maglione Roberta <roberta.maglione@telecomitalia.it>, "irs-discuss@ietf.org" <irs-discuss@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] Rough Draft IRS Charter
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The draft charter says "at least". Thus in my reading of this, the current proposed text does not preclude other use cases.

On the other hand, I think that initially, after the WG is chartered and starts operating as a WG (assuming that this happens), we need to be careful to avoid trying to take on so much work that we don't succeed in finishing any of it.

Ross
(speaking only as an interested individual, giving my personal opinion)

From: Maglione Roberta [mailto:roberta.maglione@telecomitalia.it]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 8:43 AM
To: Ross Callon; irs-discuss@ietf.org
Cc: dward@cisco.com; Capello Alessandro
Subject: RE: Rough Draft IRS Charter

Hello,
 I have a question on working item 2:

"The working group is chartered to work on the following items:


2.     Tightly scoped key use cases for operational use of IRS. These use cases will include at least:

a.    Interactions with the RIB

b.    Association of routing policies with routing state

c.    The ability to extract information about topology from the network
"
Does this bullet exclude the possibility to use IRS to gather information about network measurements such as available bandwidth on a link, information related to jitter delay for specific flows etc. ?

Thanks,
Roberta
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From: irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon
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Subject: [irs-discuss] Rough Draft IRS Charter

Attached (in Word format) is a very rough initial draft charter (for a potential IRS WG) that the BOF chairs have been discussing with our friendly sponsoring routing area AD.

Comments are welcome. We will be discussing the draft IRS WG charter in Atlanta.

Thanks, Ross
(with input from Dave and Adrian)



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