Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward
Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@juniper.net> Thu, 02 August 2012 23:43 UTC
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From: Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward
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On 8/2/12 4:29 PM, "Robert Raszuk" <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: >Tom, > > > I agree that one of the top work items for this effort should be a > > standardized topology function, and one that is accessible via a > > non-routing protocol. > >So if the requirement is to have topology export via non-routing >protocol then I think we should seriously revisit or repackage the >draft-gredler-idr-ls-distribution-01 which works for for both OSPF and >ISIS. Cool. >However before that let's really understand the requirement why it must >be exported via non-routing protocol .... Keep in mind that just to >parse BGP UPDATE messages and retrieve interesting pieces out it it >requires very little code rather then full BGP implementation. That seemed to be one of the agreements that came out of the session today. --Tom > >The particular feature I like about draft-gredler-idr-ls-distribution-01 >is that it is read-only ;) > >R. > >> >> I agree that one of the top work items for this effort should be a >> standardized topology function, and one that is accessible via a >> non-routing protocol. While not exactly "low hanging fruit", it is >> something that (to me) is a clear work item with clear goals that should >> be tackled straight away. >> >> --Tom >> >> >> >> On 8/2/12 3:24 PM, "James Kempf" <james.kempf@ericsson.com> wrote: >> >>> So after seeing part of Alia's talk this morning (I had to leave in the >>> middle unfortunately), I'd like to make a couple suggestions. There >>>were >>> a lot of ideas presented in the talk, enough for an entire IETF Area. I >>> think to make tangible progress, the work needs to be focussed on a >>>small >>> subset that would be of immediate interest and usability. >>> >>> There are a couple areas that suggest themselves, but one that would be >>> useful in work that I've been involved in is a standardized format for >>> network topology representation and a protocol for exchanging it. The >>> Onix OpenFlow controller has a network information base with a >>> specialized format for network topology, and every OpenFlow controller >>> requires this. Having a standardized way to represent it might foster a >>> common topology database package. Another application is network >>> management. Every network management system needs some kind of topology >>> representation. Finally, though I am not an expert in PCE construction, >>> it would seem to me that a PCE would need some kind of topology >>> representation in order to perform path calculations. Having a way,for >>> example, for the OpenFlow controller and the PCE to exchange topology >>> information would be really useful. I would say to start with physical >>> topology because that is fundamental, but make the format flexible >>>enough >>> to support >>> virtual topology representation. >>> >>> jak >>> _______________________________________________ >>> irs-discuss mailing list >>> irs-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> irs-discuss mailing list >> irs-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss >> >> >
- [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward James Kempf
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Susan Hares
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Robert Raszuk
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Susan Hares
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Robert Raszuk
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Susan Hares
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Susan Hares
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward James Kempf
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Susan Hares
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Jan Medved (jmedved)
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Jan Medved (jmedved)
- [irs-discuss] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS stefano previdi
- Re: [irs-discuss] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Y. Richard Yang
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Susan Hares
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Susan Hares
- Re: [irs-discuss] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Y. Richard Yang
- Re: [irs-discuss] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Volker Hilt
- Re: [irs-discuss] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Y. Richard Yang
- Re: [irs-discuss] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] [alto] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Greg Bernstein
- Re: [irs-discuss] [alto] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Greg Bernstein
- Re: [irs-discuss] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Hannes Gredler
- Re: [irs-discuss] About ALTO Vs. BGP-LS Volker Hilt
- Re: [irs-discuss] [alto] About ALTO, BGP-LS, IRS Greg Bernstein
- Re: [irs-discuss] [Idr] [alto] About ALTO, BGP-LS… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [irs-discuss] Suggestions for IRS Way Forward Susan Hares