Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS
David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net> Wed, 08 August 2012 14:59 UTC
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Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 07:59:07 -0700
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Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS
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On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com> wrote: > So, r u updating Nitin's statement as following? > > Top layer: Northboundapi #dmm: I propose we depricate the term "Northbound API". It is pretty much (if not completely) meaningless. > > Middle layer: IRS > > Bottom layer: IRS (topo export) > > > Tina > > On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:01 PM, "Alia Atlas" <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote: > > The requirement for topology export is DEFINITELY part of IRS. It is > a crucial piece for a meaningful feedback loop. Clearly there are > existing technology pieces that may have a role to play as well. > > Alia > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com> > wrote: > > Oh, I meant in Nitin's description in the mailing list, there are 3 > sub-layers of a orchestrator. > > Top layer: Northboundapi > > Middle layer: IRS > > Bottom layer: topo export > > > Therefore, the topo export is not part of IRS. It is another layer which > sits below IRS. > > > Tina > > > On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:30 PM, "Alia Atlas" <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Topology export is definitely under the umbrella of IRS - and we are > > actively starting to think about the associated requirements and > > use-cases. Feel free to contribute - on the list or towards drafts! > > > Alia > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com> > wrote: > > Nitin said topo information export is on the sub-layer under IRS. > > > > > Tina > > > > > From: irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:irs-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Edward Crabbe > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 3:20 PM > > To: robert@raszuk.net > > Cc: irs-discuss@ietf.org > > > > Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS > > > > > Robert, > > > > > If topo information export is in scope (which I believe it is) and PBR route > > injection with nh recursion to rib (and thus connected routes) is in scope > > (which I'm quite sure it is) then yes, this is in scope. > > > > > Although I'm not sure what it has to do with OF /OF controllers? ;P > > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > This morning Scott mentioned that he would like to use IRS to shut down all > > protocols and just be able to write to RIB. Now James said that he would > > like to get a network topology as "every OpenFlow controller requires this" > > > Both connected together resulted in an idea of using multi-topology-routing > > where your base topology discovers physical link connectivity graph while > > other topologies could be programmed by external entities example: OF > > controllers or any other external to routers network intelligence oracles to > > deliver actual services ? > > > Would that be in scope of IRS effort ? If so what would be the proposed > > "write to RIB" set of protocols ? Would you support OF 1.3 even if one would > > be happy to lock such topologies only to software/programmable switching > > paths ? > > > Best rgs, > > R. > > _______________________________________________ > > irs-discuss mailing list > > irs-discuss@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > irs-discuss mailing list > > irs-discuss@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > irs-discuss mailing list > irs-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss >
- [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Robert Raszuk
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Lin Han
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Edward Crabbe
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Tina TSOU
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Tina TSOU
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Tina TSOU
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Tina TSOU
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Alia Atlas
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Robert Raszuk
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS David Meyer
- Re: [irs-discuss] An idea ... MTR + IRS Scott Whyte