[irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Network Equipment Energy Efficiency Metric

Dean Bogdanovic <ivandean@gmail.com> Tue, 12 November 2024 17:20 UTC

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From: Dean Bogdanovic <ivandean@gmail.com>
To: Mark Butcher <mark@posetiv.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:20:13 +0000
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I’m really curious how many people understand how electrical grid 
operates,

the difference between active, reactive and apparent power in electrical 
grid. And how the grip operators are balancing power plants to maintain 
the needed power levels, how the operators decide between economic 
dispatch, grid stability and frequency regulation, environmental 
regulations and emissions , operational flexibility at the power plants 
etc.
Until we do, I would not speak about CO2 emissions and other complex 
energy and traffic engineering relations.

Lets first figure out how to report energy consumption by the networks, 
from very basic power consumers (SFPs) to more complex, like topologies. 
And provide the ability to provide the energy consumption information 
about an element, group of elements, part of network or even whole 
network to people who will know what to do with the info.

Dean

On 12 Nov 2024, at 14:59, Mark Butcher wrote:

> What’s interesting is seeing how kWh/GB is so variable – either 
> based on network demand, the reality of the power curve and most 
> importantly for me, when translated into CO2e how the variability 
> massively increases (time and location)
>
>
> From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, 12 November 2024 at 14:32
> To: green@ietf.org <green@ietf.org>, E-Impact IETF 
> <e-impact@ietf.org>, irtf-discuss@irtf.org <irtf-discuss@irtf.org>
> Subject: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network Equipment Energy Efficiency 
> Metric
>
> Is is useful for network planners to know kWh/peak-GB for an entire 
> infrastructure?
>
> This doesn't try to model reaction of network equipment to increased 
> flows,
> but rather to model how infrastructure grows to accomodate higher peak 
> loads?
>
> There is also an induced demand issue.  Networks grow when they fill,
> assuming there is revenue to support it.  This is akin to 
> transportation:
>    https://www.vtpi.org/gentraf.pdf
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-                      *I*LIKE*TRAINS*

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