[irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] [Green] Re: Network Equipment Energy Efficiency Metric
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Tue, 12 November 2024 21:01 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>
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Subject: [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] [Green] Re: Network Equipment Energy Efficiency Metric
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 12:46:48PM -0800, Tony Li wrote:
> Hi Toerless,
>
>
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 10:40:11AM -0800, Tony Li wrote:
> >> [-green, as this is inappropriate]
> >
> > ? You don't think green WG members would find the explanation you provided
> > useful to the extend that they may wonder if/what of it they want to see
> > modelled in their work ?
>
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> No, since this is all internal behavior and does not have any bearing on anything that we should be standardizing.
I think one wants to understand and model the aspects that change energy consumption
so that whoever observes the IETF model can know the root cause for the current
enerrgy consumption.
> >> Data sheet power usage for networking gear is typically peak, worst-case power utilization, as this is necessary for provisioning purposes.
> >
> > I've also not always found this being broken apart into the modular components, so
> > you may only know what the maximum config (e.g.: all-fastest-linecards) would
> > consume. I guess/hope green-WG would have that info though.
>
>
> It’s wholly out of scope for IETF to collect manufacturer data. It is up to the manufacturers to provide that data, hopefully through GREEN specified models.
I think we're in violent agreement, but you may have misunderstood me:
If the IETF model appropriately breaks
down the energy consumption and manufacturer implement the model, then
we may get the info that was previously inconsistently provided by manufacturers.
Cheers
Toerless
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- [irtf-discuss] Network Equipment Energy Efficienc… Hesham ElBakoury
- [irtf-discuss] Re: Network Equipment Energy Effic… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- [irtf-discuss] Re: Network Equipment Energy Effic… Joel Halpern
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Network Equipment … Dean Bogdanovic
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Re: Network Equipm… Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Network Equipment E… Michael Richardson
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network… Mark Butcher
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network… Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Network Equ… Dean Bogdanovic
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Network Equ… Mark Butcher
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Hesham ElBakoury
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network… Tony Li
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] [Green] Re: Network… Tony Li
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] [Green] Re: Network… Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Hesham ElBakoury
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Mark Butcher
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Hesham ElBakoury
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network… Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Network Equ… Dean Bogdanovic
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Network Equipment … Dean Bogdanovic
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Network Equipment … Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Mark Butcher
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Network Equipment … Loa Andersson