[irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Draft Charter for an IRTF Proposed Research Group: Sustainability and the Internet Research Group (SUSTAIN RG)

[Carlos Pignataro <[e-mail]>]

Hi, Ali, Eve,

Thank you for starting and leading this effort!!! As you know I do feel an RG on environmental sustainability considerations for the Internet and internetwork technologies (including AI DCs!)  is important! 

I would add to the vision (or success statement) to attract researchers in this multidisciplinary field.

Please find some thoughts and comments, for your consideration:

Overall, there seems to be a potential overrotation on “carbon emissions”, and “carbon-aware stuff” as a preconceived solution. First, it is not about ‘carbon’ only but GHG — and while it is useful to simply in carbon equivalencies, time degradation and effect of different GHG emissions differ. 

So I believe a high-order-bit research area ought to be not carbon-aware-stuff, but instead a comprehensive research analysis of where lies the largest leverage area for potential positive impact. Is it energy efficiency? Or turn to renewable energy production? What is best — keep old gear (not new materials extraction), refresh quickly (better energy efficiency and recycling), or better still, what is the formula for optimum refresh cycle? Does optimizing/reducing extraction of rare metals produce better net-results in a craddle-to-grave scope? There seem to be more opinions than research, more anecdata than data. Or maybe much of that exists and it’s an effort on bringing clue to the I*?

One point question:
> Since the IAB E-impact program is the venue for Internet architecture and environmental sustainability-related guidance and coordination among various IETF & IRTF groups,

Is the above an appropriate characterization?

Lastly, since this is an IRTG-targeted effort, does it make sense to cite or otherwise include https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-green-ps/, which is in IRSG Poll?

Thanks, and best,

Carlos Pignataro.


> On Oct 31, 2024, at 11:39 PM, Ali Rezaki (Nokia) <ali.rezaki=[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Dear E-impact, Green WG, IRTF-discuss Lists, Colleagues,
> 
> We have been working on a draft charter for an IRTF Proposed Research Group: Sustainability and the Internet Research Group (SUSTAIN RG). Please find enclosed v1.0 of this draft charter proposal for your review and feedback.
> 
> We have scheduled a Public Side Meeting at IETF 121 in Dublin, on 6 November 2024, at 14:30 GMT (UTC+0) in Wicklow Hall 2A, to present the background and details of the charter and to have an open discussion. We are aware that public side meetings are difficult to attend remotely. Accordingly, we will arrange an additional on-line meeting about a week after the IETF 121 to ensure adequate access for remote participation as well.
> 
> We have created a GitHub repository for the development of the charter with community feedback and the management of the side meeting at: https://github.com/rezaki-ali/IRTF_SUSTAIN_RG. The draft charter is available in this repository as well.
> 
> We would greatly appreciate it if you would be able to review the draft charter proposal for the SUSTAIN RG and kindly share your feedback with us please. We would also be very happy to see you at the SUSTAIN RG Public Side Meeting at IETF 121 and/or at the on-line meeting to be arranged just after IETF 121.
> 
> Many thanks to Colin Perkins, Jari Arkko, Suresh Krishnan, Noa Zilberman, Jukka Manner, Romain Jakob, Michael Welzl, Chris Adams for their review of earlier drafts and their feedback. Many thanks to Dirk Kutscher, David R. Oran, Lixia Zhang, Kurtis Heimerl for their input on priorities and perspectives.
> 
> Looking forward to developing the SUSTAIN RG charter with your contributions.
> 
> Many thanks and best regards,
> 
> Ali and Eve
> 
> <IRTF_Proposed_Research_Group_SUSTAIN_RG_Draft_Charter_v1_0.pdf>-- 
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