[irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network Equipment Energy Efficiency Metric
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Tue, 12 November 2024 16:25 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 02:32:29PM -0000, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Is is useful for network planners to know kWh/peak-GB for an entire infrastructure? I think so. That's why i was just suggesting to Dean to have not only 0%/15%/100% throughput utilization, but also a definition for max-power use of a device. How much power is it, and what's needed so that the device will use that much power. > This doesn't try to model reaction of network equipment to increased flows, > but rather to model how infrastructure grows to accomodate higher peak loads? Not sure about that use-case. Can you give an example ? I fear that all expansion may involve new equipment with yet-unknown power parameters... I was primarily thnking of provisioning powr for peak use. Or as necessary do peak shaving. For example, if there atually is a significant peak after e.g. a power failure, as there is in traditional servers with spinning disks, then this can typically be shaved through software/control mechanisms. I am not aware of anything like this for traditional network devices, but always good to know upfront that there is no such situation where power use is higher than power use during e.g.: 100% utilization, for which one does plan the power supply of the room/ Cheers Toerless > There is also an induced demand issue. Networks grow when they fill, > assuming there is revenue to support it. This is akin to transportation: > https://www.vtpi.org/gentraf.pdf > > -- > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- *I*LIKE*TRAINS* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Green mailing list -- green@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to green-leave@ietf.org -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
- [irtf-discuss] Network Equipment Energy Efficienc… Hesham ElBakoury
- [irtf-discuss] Re: Network Equipment Energy Effic… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- [irtf-discuss] Re: Network Equipment Energy Effic… Joel Halpern
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Network Equipment … Dean Bogdanovic
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Re: Network Equipm… Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Network Equipment E… Michael Richardson
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network… Mark Butcher
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network… Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Network Equ… Dean Bogdanovic
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Network Equ… Mark Butcher
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Hesham ElBakoury
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network… Tony Li
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] [Green] Re: Network… Tony Li
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] [Green] Re: Network… Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Hesham ElBakoury
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Mark Butcher
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Hesham ElBakoury
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Network… Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Network Equ… Dean Bogdanovic
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Network Equipment … Dean Bogdanovic
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Network Equipment … Toerless Eckert
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [E-impact] Re: [Green] Network… Mark Butcher
- [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] Re: Network Equipment … Loa Andersson