[irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Re: Draft Charter for an IRTF Proposed Research Group: Sustainability and the Internet Research Group (SUSTAIN RG)
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From: Dirk Trossen <dirk.trossen@huawei.com>
To: Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
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Subject: [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Re: Draft Charter for an IRTF Proposed Research Group: Sustainability and the Internet Research Group (SUSTAIN RG)
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Wes, all, I agree on the pathway (into the IETF) notion as one objective for work in an RG. I suggested wording along the lines you suggested during last week's discussion on the list for the solicitation of function-oriented research that aims at positive impacting carbon efficiency, which could then be positioned along a pathway into the IETF (e.g., identifying and linking to suitable WGs). This does not preclude the more wider objectives of the RG, of course. Best, Dirk -----Original Message----- From: Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> Sent: 09 November 2024 12:31 To: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> Cc: irtf-discuss@irtf.org Subject: [irtf-discuss] Re: [Green] [E-impact] Re: Draft Charter for an IRTF Proposed Research Group: Sustainability and the Internet Research Group (SUSTAIN RG) Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> writes: > The SUSTAIN RG will be different. We have a general plan to > constructively work towards sustainability in networking; of course we > want to help the GREEN WG if we can, etc. etc. - A potentially bold suggestion: Since the IRTF has always had the goal of executing research that eventually helps drive the forward direction of the IETF, maybe this would be a good opportunity to actually put into the wording of the charter that the goal of SUSTAIN is to rapidly produce research results that can directly drive toward solutions that can be implemented in IETF WGs like GREEN. The careful thing to avoid, hopefully "of course", is not to state that SUSTAIN has the ability to force a particular WG to do something -- it's more to document a hopefully direct relationship. I think the wording would need to be done carefully (and I'm not sure my sentence above is perfect, as such). -- Wes Hardaker USC/ISI
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