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"Ali Rezaki (Nokia)" <ali.rezaki@nokia.com> Fri, 08 November 2024 13:27 UTC

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From: "Ali Rezaki (Nokia)" <ali.rezaki@nokia.com>
To: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
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Hi Hesham,

Thanks for your further question.

As mentioned, defining metrics usually refers to agreeing on their models, format and use, as we are beginning to see in Green WG, which has the intention of standardization. Non-standardized metrics have limited use and impact. On the research side, we could provide input, comments and feedback to this process, but we would not take ownership of defining metrics in SUSTAIN RG.

I hope this clarified your question.

Many thanks.

Best regards,

Ali

From: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 5:54 AM
To: Ali Rezaki (Nokia) <ali.rezaki@nokia.com>
Cc: Dirk Trossen <dirk.trossen@huawei.com>; Dan York <york@isoc.org>; E-Impact IETF <e-impact@ietf.org>; green@ietf.org; irtf-discuss@irtf.org; Eve Schooler at Gmail <eve.schooler@gmail.com>; Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
Subject: Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Re: Draft Charter for an IRTF Proposed Research Group: Sustainability and the Internet Research Group (SUSTAIN RG)

Hi Ali,
What us the rationale behind the exclusion of defining metrics from the SUSTAIN charter?

Thanks
Hesham

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024, 3:17 PM Ali Rezaki (Nokia) <ali.rezaki@nokia.com<mailto:ali.rezaki@nokia.com>> wrote:
Hi Hesham,

Thanks very much for your e-mail.

As was also indicated in the Side Meeting yesterday, SUSTAIN RG, as part of IRTF, would not engage in standardization actions. While we will closely cooperate with Green WG, defining metrics is not part of the proposed SUSTAIN RG charter. Research aspects of measurements and assessments and data collection and sharing are.

I hope this helps.

Many thanks.

Best regards,

Ali


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Subject: Re: [Green] Re: [E-impact] Re: Draft Charter for an IRTF Proposed Research Group: Sustainability and the Internet Research Group (SUSTAIN RG)



Are we going to use the energy efficiecy metrics defined in GREEN and extend them in SUSTAINRG?
Hesham

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