Re: [irtf-discuss] NSRG Archives

["Steven M. Bellovin" <[e-mail]>]

Full? I have no idea. I have 155 messages that have the
proper List-Archive header line, and 266 that have nsrg
in some address line. Some of those are definitely duplicates,
e.g., messages I sent in which case they'd be in a 'Sent'
folder as well. I also have 288 messages in the folder I used
for that mailing list, but from a quick scan it has some pre-RG
messages as well. From a random check, at least one of those
might be considered personal.

On 21 Jul 2021, at 19:12, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Thanks Lixia, well spotted.
>
> Does anyone have a full private archive of the list?
> If so it might be worth the effort of getting permission
> to make it public from that list. It doesn't seem worth
> it for the small fraction of traffic that I captured.
>
> Regards
>    Brian Carpenter
>
> On 22-Jul-21 08:41, Lixia Zhang wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2021, at 2:47 AM, Eliot Lear <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>> My recollection is approximately 25.
>>
>> there is a list of names at the end of that draft report
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-nsrg-report-10
>>
>> This document is a description of a review done by the Name Space
>> Research Group of the Internet Research Task Force.  The members of
>> that group include:
>>   J.  Noel Chiappa,   Scott Bradner,      Henning Schulzrinne,
>>   Brian Carpenter,    Rob Austien,        Karen Sollins,
>>   John Wroclawski,    Steve Bellovin,     Steve Crocker,
>>   Keith Moore,        Steve Deering,      Matt Holdrege,
>>   Randy Stewart,      Leslie Daigle,      John Ioannidis,
>>   John Day,           Thomas Narten,      Bob Moskowitz,
>>   Ran Atkinson,       Gabriel Montenegro, Lixia Xiang.
>>
>> (Eliot typed my name wrong:)
>> I recall that, after the group's progress stagnated, Eliot was called 
>> in to help the group finish up.  But the opinions and understandings 
>> at the time just too diversified to make the job feasible.
>> It seems to me that the understanding on naming has much progressed 
>> over the last 20-some years, though the diversity of views seems 
>> remaining if not further enlarged.
>>
>> Lixia
>>
>>> On 16.07.21 10:08, Lars Eggert wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> apologies that I missed this having been a closed RG.
>>>>
>>>> On 2021-7-16, at 0:01, Brian E Carpenter 
>>>> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>> I have 122 messages that were sent to [e-mail] in 
>>>>> 1999-2004. Since it was an invitational group, I'm not sure what 
>>>>> the ethics are of releasing them.
>>>> How many member did the NSRG have? I wonder if it would be feasible 
>>>> to contact them to ask about making the archives public?
>>>>
>>>> (More generally, I think it would be useful if the records of such 
>>>> historic closed groups could be made available for posterity in 
>>>> some form.)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Lars
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> .
>>


         —Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb