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[73.93.167.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 41be03b00d2f7-7f45fcb0657sm4328255a12.68.2024.11.12.12.46.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:46:59 -0800 (PST) Sender: Tony Li Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3818.100.11.1.3\)) From: Tony Li In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:46:48 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <361466.1731421949@dyas> To: Toerless Eckert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3818.100.11.1.3) Message-ID-Hash: LTAFLL5YVZC74CGQQP2242ADWJAWDEEF X-Message-ID-Hash: LTAFLL5YVZC74CGQQP2242ADWJAWDEEF X-MailFrom: tony1athome@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-irtf-discuss.irtf.org-0; header-match-irtf-discuss.irtf.org-1; header-match-irtf-discuss.irtf.org-2; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Michael Richardson , E-Impact IETF , irtf-discuss@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6 Precedence: list Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5Birtf-discuss=5D_Re=3A_=5BE-impact=5D_=5BGreen=5D_Re=3A_Network_?= =?utf-8?q?Equipment_Energy_Efficiency_Metric?= List-Id: IRTF general and new-work discussion list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Hi Toerless, > On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 10:40:11AM -0800, Tony Li wrote: >> [-green, as this is inappropriate] >=20 > ? You don't think green WG members would find the explanation you = provided > useful to the extend that they may wonder if/what of it they want to = see > modelled in their work ? No, since this is all internal behavior and does not have any bearing on = anything that we should be standardizing. >> Data sheet power usage for networking gear is typically peak, = worst-case power utilization, as this is necessary for provisioning = purposes. >=20 > I've also not always found this being broken apart into the modular = components, so > you may only know what the maximum config (e.g.: = all-fastest-linecards) would > consume. I guess/hope green-WG would have that info though. It=E2=80=99s wholly out of scope for IETF to collect manufacturer data. = It is up to the manufacturers to provide that data, hopefully through = GREEN specified models. T