Re: [Irtf-mobility-charter] IP Mobility Optimizations (Mob Opts) RG charter
"Michael A. Ramalho" <mramalho@cisco.com> Mon, 06 October 2003 19:40 UTC
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To: Rajeev Koodli <rajeev@iprg.nokia.com>, irtf-mobility-charter@irtf.org
From: "Michael A. Ramalho" <mramalho@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Irtf-mobility-charter] IP Mobility Optimizations (Mob Opts) RG charter
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Rajeev, Re: IP Mobility Optimizations (Mob Opts) I have a question regarding the last paragraph in the "research group" charter. >The research group addresses questions of an evolutionary nature, >making use of the IP Mobility architecture (i.e., Mobile IP and >handover optimizations such as Fast Handover and Hierarchical Mobile >IP) developed in the Mobile IP Working Group. In particular, radically >new architectures (e.g., based on the separation of identity and >location) are outside the scopeof this group. Although not explicitly stated, I think the underlying assumption of the entire group is that TCP is assumed. That is, to maintain a particular session during mobility (e.g., handoffs between wireless links in different subnets) that the "IP address of the mobile node endpoint" must remain the same for the duration of the session. MIP or routing technology is fundamentally assumed here so that the mobile node IP address remains the same as far as the other end host is concerned. This is obvious from the "new route establishment" example provided in the proposed charter. If a MN were allowed to change/add/delete a new IP address without breaking the session - the "new route establishment" in the charter wording wouldn't need to occur! [Indeed, even neither MIP tunnels nor routing updates would be required!] Thus another obvious "solution" is to create another transport layer that doesn't have the rigid "one IP address forever" constraint built in (as TCP does). Note that if one had such a transport that a "new [Internet] architecture" would also not be required (only normal IP forwarding is required). "Handovers" across disparate wireless networks would also be less of an issue (you only need to concern yourself with link layer and network layer re-establishment). If this group is indeed a "research group", I think other transports without this constraint could be investigated. Or the group could explicitly exclude such work. I'm not against the charter work as described if the group only wants to consider TCP for legacy reasons. However, this important TCP constraint should be explicitly stated. Regards, Michael Ramalho Michael A. Ramalho Office email: mramalho@cisco.com Personal email: mar42@cornell.edu Office: +1.941.708.4650 Cell: +1.941.544.2844 _______________________________________________ Irtf-mobility-charter mailing list Irtf-mobility-charter@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irtf-mobility-charter
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- Re: [Irtf-mobility-charter] IP Mobility Optimizat… Rajeev Koodli
- Re: [Irtf-mobility-charter] IP Mobility Optimizat… Michael A. Ramalho
- Re: [Irtf-mobility-charter] IP Mobility Optimizat… Rajeev Koodli
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