Re: [Isis-wg] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf-04: (with COMMENT)

"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <> Fri, 07 April 2017 21:09 UTC

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Alvaro -

Thanx for the review.

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> draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf-04: No Objection
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> I have a series of comments -- they don't add up to a DISCUSS, but I think it is
> important that they are solved before publication.
> (1) In Section 3.3. (Router-Fingerprint TLV), the format presented doesn't
> actually show the "flags field", which is described in the text,
> but it shows its contents.   The length is defined as "the length of the
> value field", but the figure doesn't explicitly show the Value field.  It is
> probably obvious that the flags field + Router Fingerprint = Value, but it
> would be nice to be specific.
> Suggestion: include the 1 octet "flags field" in the drawing -- if needed, then
> show the detail (where the S and A bits are) in the description of the field.
[Les:] Bing has the pen - I will let him respond - but I am OK with your suggestion.

> (2) What about the other bits in the Flag field, how should they be registered
> in the future (if needed)?  Please ask IANA to define a registry for them.
[Les:] I don't think a registry is needed. If an additional flag is required then a bis draft will be required.
This is no different than many other flags fields already defined in the protocol.
Note that this is different than (for example) the flags field in RFC 7794 since it is a fixed size.

> (3) Section 3.1. (IS-IS Default Configuration) mentions several TLVs that
> MUST NOT be used...and Section 3.3. (Router-Fingerprint TLV) says that this
> TLV MUST NOT be included in an LSP with a non-zero LSP number.  What
> should a receiving node do if any of those conditions are not true?
[Les:] Ignore on receipt. We can add an explicit statement.

> (4) s/3.4.3.  IS-IS System ID Duplication Detection and Resolution/3.4.3.
>  IS-IS System ID Duplication Detection
[Les:] Agreed.

> (5) I thought the point of this document was for use in "unmanaged
> deployments.  It allows IS-IS to be used without the need for any
> configuration by the user."  But Section 3.5. (Additional IS-IS TLVs Usage
> Guidelines) has recommendations for configuration options, including
> manually configured adjacencies (which should not be allowed according to
> Section 3.4.2. (Adjacency Formation)).  Isn't this against the stated reasons
> for this document?
[Les:] The mention of "manually configured adjacencies" is in the context of what the default metric should be for non-manual adjacencies.
We do not recommend manual configuration, but it is not illegal to do it.

> (6) Authentication is one of those features that could be manually configured
> -- but the default is no authentication.  There's a higher-than-usual risk of a
> node listening on the network (probably a bigger problem for the user
> traffic), but also one that could listen to the Hellos and purposefully trigger
> the duplicate resolution mechanism to continuously run.  This risk should be
> highlighted in the Security Considerations because it is newly introduced
> here. [Robert Sparks pointed this risk out during his GenArt review.]
[Les:] Let me know if the answer I provided to Robert suffices.