Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt
Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com> Fri, 16 May 2014 08:21 UTC
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From: Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com>
To: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>, Hannes Gredler <hannes@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt
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Les, Yes, if there are early implementations, a code point is necessary and a formal early allocation process is needed as well. Best regards, Mach > -----Original Message----- > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) [mailto:ginsberg@cisco.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:45 PM > To: Mach Chen; Hannes Gredler > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt > > Mach - > > The issue is what to do with early implementations. In general we encourage > people to implement drafts so as to gain experience and identfiy any issues ("we > believe in running code..."). If the codepoints change between the time it > becomes a WG doc and the time it becomes an RFC this can present issues for > early implementations. > > Although a more formal early allocation process is needed (and has been recently > discussed) - and this draft is not yet a WG doc - which would be necessary to > qualify for early allocation - I think specifying a code point is a better strategy. > > Les > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mach Chen [mailto:mach.chen@huawei.com] > > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:10 AM > > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Hannes Gredler > > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > > Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > > draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- discriminator-00.txt > > > > Les and Hannes, > > > > A better way to avoid conflict is not to specify a particular code in > > the draft, and just using TBD instead. > > > > Best regards, > > Mach > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Isis-wg [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Les > > Ginsberg > > > (ginsberg) > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 11:35 PM > > > To: Hannes Gredler > > > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > > > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > > > draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt > > > > > > Hannes - > > > > > > You are right - though I was looking at the latest link on the IS-IS WG page. > > :-) > > > > > > Anyways, no problem w resolving the conflict - we will specify a > > > different > > value in > > > the next version. > > > > > > Les > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Hannes Gredler [mailto:hannes@juniper.net] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:23 AM > > > > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > > > > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > > > > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > > > > draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- discriminator-00.txt > > > > > > > > les, > > > > > > > > you are not looking at the latest doc. > > > > > > > > please see > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > > > > extensions/?include_text=1 > > > > > > > > section 4.3 > > > > > > > > /hannes > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hannes - > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: Isis-wg [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > > > >> Hannes Gredler > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:02 AM > > > > >> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > > > > >> Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > > > > >> draft-ginsberg-isis- > > > > sbfd- > > > > >> discriminator-00.txt > > > > >> > > > > >> hi les, > > > > >> > > > > >> subTLV 19 clashes with Segment Routing Algorithm - suggest that > > > > >> you use code point #20 instead. > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to avoid conflicts - but the latest IS-IS SR draft > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-previdi-isis-segment-routing-exte > > > > nsio > > > > ns-05 > > > > > specifies sub-TLV 2 (SR Capabilities) and sub-TLV 15 (SR algorithm). > > > > > See > > > > Section 3. > > > > > > > > > > Now "15" has already been assigned by RFC 7176 (AKA RFC > > > > > 6362bis) - so > > > > clearly this has to change. > > > > > > > > > > If you want "19" to get used for SR that's fine with me - but > > > > > guess this > > > > illustrates the value of early allocation. :-) > > > > > > > > > > Les > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> tx, > > > > >> > > > > >> /hannes > > > > >> > > > > >> On May 8, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> FYI - this new draft describes how to advertise S-BFD > > > > >>> Discriminators > > > > using > > > > >> IS-IS. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Comments are welcomed. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Les > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > > >>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > > > > >>> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 7:46 AM > > > > >>> To: Mach Chen; Nobo Akiya (nobo); Mach Chen; Les Ginsberg > > > > >>> (ginsberg); > > > > >> Nobo Akiya (nobo); Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > > > > >>> Subject: New Version Notification for > > > > >>> draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- > > > > >> discriminator-00.txt > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> A new version of I-D, > > > > >>> draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt > > > > >>> has been successfully submitted by Les Ginsberg and posted to > > > > >>> the IETF repository. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Name: draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator > > > > >>> Revision: 00 > > > > >>> Title: Advertising S-BFD Discriminators in IS-IS > > > > >>> Document date: 2014-05-08 > > > > >>> Group: Individual Submission > > > > >>> Pages: 5 > > > > >>> URL: > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- > > > > >> discriminator-00.txt > > > > >>> Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- > > > > >> discriminator/ > > > > >>> Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- > > > > >> discriminator-00 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Abstract: > > > > >>> This document defines a means of advertising one or more > > > > >>> S-BFD Discriminators using the IS-IS Router Capability TLV. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time > > > > >>> of > > > > >> submission > > > > >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The IETF Secretariat > > > > >>> > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>> Isis-wg mailing list > > > > >>> Isis-wg@ietf.org > > > > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> Isis-wg mailing list > > > > >> Isis-wg@ietf.org > > > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Isis-wg mailing list > > > Isis-wg@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg
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- Re: [Isis-wg] FW: New Version Notification for dr… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] FW: New Version Notification for dr… Sam Aldrin
- Re: [Isis-wg] FW: New Version Notification for dr… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] FW: New Version Notification for dr… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Isis-wg] FW: New Version Notification for dr… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Isis-wg] FW: New Version Notification for dr… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Mach Chen
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Mach Chen
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Mach Chen
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-… Mach Chen
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version/Proposed isis-wg docume… Marc Binderberger
- Re: [Isis-wg] New Version/Proposed isis-wg docume… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)