Re: [Isis-wg] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-isis-l2bundles-05: (with COMMENT)

Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Wed, 24 May 2017 21:08 UTC

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From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 17:08:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-isis-l2bundles-05: (with COMMENT)
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On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:

> Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-isis-l2bundles-05: No Objection
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> I support the various DISCUSS points concerning the security
> considerations.
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> I note that the remaining authors have made their IPR statements, so that
> discussion is moot.
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> I share some of the discomfort concerning the shepherd report. I'm
> willing to accept that the shepherd is in the rough, but it would be nice
> to have stronger evidence of that, perhaps in the form of an opinion from
> the other chair. To quote a wise area director: I leave it to the
> responsible AD to do the right thing, whatever that might be.


Ben,

Thanks.    The formal minutes from IETF 98 on IS-IS include:

"- Intro, Adminastriva, Document Status - Chris Hopps (See slides)
    Alia Atlas: Some discussions surrounding using
                 IS-IS for link-bundles.
     Chris Hopps: Draft has been WG document for months and
            months. Why are there questions now?
     Alia: Requires further discussion. Need to notify
           RTG WG and OSPF WG.
     Les: What is the progression of this document. Past
          WG last call since June. What is timeline?
     Alia: Wasn't completely aware of timeline and will
           do another AD review. Assuming no major concerns
           during IETF last call it could go to IESG telechat
           in May.
     Peter Lothberg: This is holding up required IS-IS protocol
           deployment.
"

This is a cleaned up version of what I recall being said - which included
Chris
Hopps, the other ISIS WG Chair, clearly stating that the draft had WG
consensus.
I regret that that wasn't captured in the formal minutes, but it should be
at the start
of the recording.

Regards,
Alia