Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt
John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> Wed, 05 May 2010 11:25 UTC
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+1 > -----Original Message----- > From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Peter Ashwood-Smith > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:59 PM > To: 'Hasmit Grover'; 'Fedyk, Donald (Don)' > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt > > The reason we all go to standards bodies is to > contribute/debate/participate > in the evolution of the Internet. > > I've been able to debate/participate openly with the Trill folks over the > last few years, they publish minutes, have an email list, regular meetings > etc. etc. > > I've been able to debate openly with the IEEE 802.1aq folks over the last > few years, minutes, email lists, regular meetings etc. > > Please explain to me where and when I've had the opportunity to debate OTV > and why that is not a problem? > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Hasmit Grover > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:17 PM > To: Fedyk, Donald (Don) > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt > > > Donald, > > As per draft-ietf-isis-layer it's intent is to capture the IS-IS > extensions > used by protocols running over L2. Like other protocols mentioned in the > draft, OTV is also an L2 protocol which is using some of the TLVs > mentioned > in the draft. It is really important that all the IS-IS TLV codepoints are > captured in a single document so that different implementations can inter- > op > with each other. > > -Hasmit > > On May 4, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Fedyk, Donald (Don) wrote: > > > Hi Dhananjaya > > > > It is rather unprecedented to have material published in a WG document > before it is in an individual draft and there is a consensus to add it. > > > > So for the changes for OTV they really should go in an individual draft > and be discussed on their own merits. > > > > Do you and your authors agree? > > > > Don > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf > Of Dhananjaya Rao (dhrao) > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:45 PM > > To: isis-wg@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt > > > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > We're just catching up on the discussions on the mailing list regarding > the L2 IS-IS draft-ietf-isis-layer2-04.txt. As the authors of OTV, we'd > like > to clarify any doubts or concerns regarding the extensions used by OTV. > > > > Briefly, OTV uses the L2 IS-IS extensions being defined to provide a > solution for interconnecting datacenter networks. An I-D describing the > solution has been recently published at > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hasmit-otv-00. > > > > OTV shares along with TRILL/802.1aq several of the PDU/TLVs that have > been > defined in this draft. There are of course a few additional sub-TLVs > defined > specifically for OTV: > > > > - A couple of hello extensions to advertise L2 site membership and > > capabilities. > > - A group membership sub-TLV to advertise multicast source information. > > > > The solution is already being deployed in several enterprise networks > and > a final product with this solution is shipping soon. Given the multiple > technologies using L2 IS-IS, we'd like to ensure the extensions and > codepoints are published in a common document to aid interoperable > implementations. > > > > Please let us know if you have any questions. > > > > Thanks, > > -Dhananjaya (for the authors) > > > > > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >> directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the IS-IS for IP Internets Working Group > >> of the IETF. > >> > >> > >> Title : Extensions to IS-IS for Layer-2 Systems > >> Author(s) : A. Banerjee, et al. > >> Filename : draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt > >> Pages : 60 > >> Date : 2010-04-30 > >> > >> This document specifies the IS-IS extensions necessary to support > >> multi-link IPv4 and IPv6 networks, as well as to provide true link > >> state routing to any protocols running directly over layer 2. While > >> supporting this concept involves several pieces, this document only > >> describes extensions to IS-IS. We leave it to the systems using these > >> IS-IS extensions to explain how the information carried in IS-IS is > >> used. > >> > >> A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > >> Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > >> implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > >> Internet-Draft. > >> > >> <ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt> > > _______________________________________________ > > Isis-wg mailing list > > Isis-wg@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > > _______________________________________________ > > Isis-wg mailing list > > Isis-wg@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Dhananjaya Rao (dhrao)
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… John E Drake
- [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt Internet-Drafts
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Bragg, Nigel
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Peter Ashwood-Smith
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Dhananjaya Rao (dhrao)
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Hasmit Grover
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Peter Ashwood-Smith
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Hasmit Grover
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Paul Unbehagen
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… David Allan I
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Ralph Droms
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… John E Drake
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Ralph Droms
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Peter Ashwood-Smith
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Victor Moreno (vimoreno)
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… David Allan I
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… David Allan I
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… David Allan I
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… David Allan I
- Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-0… Donald Eastlake