Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt

John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> Wed, 05 May 2010 11:25 UTC

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To: Peter Ashwood-Smith <Peter.AshwoodSmith@huawei.com>, 'Hasmit Grover' <hasmit@cisco.com>, "'Fedyk, Donald (Don)'" <donald.fedyk@alcatel-lucent.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Peter Ashwood-Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:59 PM
> To: 'Hasmit Grover'; 'Fedyk, Donald (Don)'
> Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt
> 
> The reason we all go to standards bodies is to
> contribute/debate/participate
> in the evolution of the Internet.
> 
> I've been able to debate/participate openly with the Trill folks over the
> last few years, they publish minutes, have an email list, regular meetings
> etc. etc.
> 
> I've been able to debate openly with the IEEE 802.1aq folks over the last
> few years, minutes, email lists, regular meetings etc.
> 
> Please explain to me where and when I've had the opportunity to debate OTV
> and why that is not a problem?
> 
> Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Hasmit Grover
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:17 PM
> To: Fedyk, Donald (Don)
> Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt
> 
> 
> Donald,
> 
> As per draft-ietf-isis-layer it's intent is to capture the IS-IS
> extensions
> used by protocols running over L2. Like other protocols mentioned in the
> draft, OTV is also an L2 protocol which is using some of the TLVs
> mentioned
> in the draft. It is really important that all the IS-IS TLV codepoints are
> captured in a single document so that different implementations can inter-
> op
> with each other.
> 
> -Hasmit
> 
> On May 4, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Fedyk, Donald (Don) wrote:
> 
> > Hi Dhananjaya
> >
> > It is rather unprecedented to have material published in a WG document
> before it is in an individual draft and there is a consensus to add it.
> >
> > So for the changes for OTV they really should go in an individual draft
> and be discussed on their own merits.
> >
> > Do you and your authors agree?
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Dhananjaya Rao (dhrao)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:45 PM
> > To: isis-wg@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > We're just catching up on the discussions on the mailing list regarding
> the L2 IS-IS draft-ietf-isis-layer2-04.txt. As the authors of OTV, we'd
> like
> to clarify any doubts or concerns regarding the extensions used by OTV.
> >
> > Briefly, OTV uses the L2 IS-IS extensions being defined to provide a
> solution for interconnecting datacenter networks. An I-D describing the
> solution has been recently published at
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hasmit-otv-00.
> >
> > OTV shares along with TRILL/802.1aq several of the PDU/TLVs that have
> been
> defined in this draft. There are of course a few additional sub-TLVs
> defined
> specifically for OTV:
> >
> > - A couple of hello extensions to advertise L2 site membership and
> >  capabilities.
> > - A group membership sub-TLV to advertise multicast source information.
> >
> > The solution is already being deployed in several enterprise networks
> and
> a final product with this solution is shipping soon. Given the multiple
> technologies using L2 IS-IS, we'd like to ensure the extensions and
> codepoints are published in a common document to aid interoperable
> implementations.
> >
> > Please let us know if you have any questions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Dhananjaya (for the authors)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> >> directories.
> >> This draft is a work item of the IS-IS for IP Internets Working Group
> >> of the IETF.
> >>
> >>
> >> 	Title           : Extensions to IS-IS for Layer-2 Systems
> >> 	Author(s)       : A. Banerjee, et al.
> >> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt
> >> 	Pages           : 60
> >> 	Date            : 2010-04-30
> >>
> >> This document specifies the IS-IS extensions necessary to support
> >> multi-link IPv4 and IPv6 networks, as well as to provide true link
> >> state routing to any protocols running directly over layer 2.  While
> >> supporting this concept involves several pieces, this document only
> >> describes extensions to IS-IS.  We leave it to the systems using these
> >> IS-IS extensions to explain how the information carried in IS-IS is
> >> used.
> >>
> >> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt
> >>
> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> >>
> >> Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader
> >> implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the
> >> Internet-Draft.
> >>
> >> <ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-isis-layer2-05.txt>
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