[Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved by somehow extending current IS-IS
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Tue, 14 September 2010 12:44 UTC
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Subject: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved by somehow extending
current IS-IS
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Hi.
I'd like to describe two operational practices and how they cause problems
with our current IS-IS implementation.
1. When we are about to do any major work on a router (for instance now
lately to patch the BGP bug in IOS XR), we currently set "isis overload"
which causes most traffic to be removed from the router as all the other
network considers it to be unavailable for transiting traffic.
2. When we want to do maintenance on a link (or we're having bit errors),
we before used to shut down ISIS on the interface in question ("isis
protocol shut"), but since the link might not be totally unavailable,
we've instead started to raise the ISIS cost/metric on the link (at both
ends) to remove traffic from it, but still have it available in case there
is no other path (perhaps due to another failure in the network). This is
operationally hard since we have to login to both routers which use this
link, and do the changes on both. This is especially of interest in
non-p-t-p links/networks, as it's hard to increase cost at "both" ends,
because there are more than 2 nodes involved.
Basically, what I'd like to see is the way to bidirectionally increase
cost on a link by just changing the configuration at one end. This would
ease the number of configuration changes needed in case 2, and I would
also request my vendor to implement a new command that might be "isis cost
max" (or "cost avoid") that would actually not replace the current cost
value but just raise it to a maximum value, but only needing the change
done at one end.
To solve case 1, instead of using "overload" I'd like to use "max-metric"
(as done in OSPF) but this would be done to all the links connecting the
router. This would mean that in case of a BGP failure / process restart,
ISIS/LDP signalled LSPs wouldn't have to be torn down / re-routed (torn
down in case of a single homed router behind the router having
maintenance). If there was a broadcast media, it would make the traffic go
away from the router if there was any other path.
I don't really know that much about the internals in IS-IS so I don't know
exactly how much of an issue it would be to solve the issues I've
described above, but I'd just like to state that this is an area of IS-IS
that would be great to have improved.
Thanks.
--
Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
- [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved by … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Mach Chen
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… mike shand
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Guan Deng
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Ilya Varlashkin
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Ilya Varlashkin
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Ilya Varlashkin
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Dave Katz
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Dave Katz
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Dave Katz
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Ilya Varlashkin
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Ilya Varlashkin
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Ilya Varlashkin
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Ilya Varlashkin
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Chen, Jay (Jay)
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Chen, Jay (Jay)
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Chen, Jay (Jay)
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Isis-wg] operational problem might be solved… iLya