Re: [Isis-wg] [netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-litkowski-netmod-isis-cfg-00.txt

t.petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Thu, 19 June 2014 16:35 UTC

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alia Atlas" <akatlas@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:26 PM

> isis-wg is the right place.

Alia

In a year or two, I expect that I would agree with you but right now,
the netmod WG has only just produced the basic models and in doing so,
found the need for some necessary modifications to YANG; and, in the
past 18 months, radically changed (IMO) the layout of most modules, to
the twin trees, cfg and state approach.

Give a year or two's experience of writing modules and there will
doubtless be guidelines on what to do and what not to do, but right now,
I think that the active involvement of the netmod group is essential.

I propose a three part approach; start in netmod to get the current
thinking of how to tackle common problems (the sort of things that Lada
has addressed although I disagree with him over the use of TLV - that is
how isis does things:-)

Then move to isis to get technicalities of the protocol correct, what to
model, what is config, defaults, etc

Then back to netmod to see that it still aligns with netmod best
practice (which likely will have moved on)

Tom Petch

> Alia
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <
> j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 08:11:24AM +0000,
stephane.litkowski@orange.com
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Lada,
> > >
> > > For sure ISIS WG need to be involved, for ownership of the draft,
I
> > don't really know which WG need to be "owner". Maybe chairs can
provide
> > their feedback or we could discuss this point in Toronto.
> > > I'm would like to present this first version in both WG if
possible.
> > >
> >
> > As a general principle, I prefer that data models are done in the
WGs
> > that understand what is being modeled. Hence, this work should
ideally
> > be done in the ISIS WG.
> >
> > Since I am not following the ISIS WG myself, I ended up looking at
the
> > WG charter page in order to get a clue what they are working on and
> > what I found is that apparently their milestones have not been
updated
> > since 2009 (and the additional page pointed to in the charter,
> > <http://skat.usc.edu/~tli/Schedule.htm>, does not look more recent
> > either). So it remains somewhat difficult to judge whether ISIS may
be
> > able to pick up this work.
> >
> > /js
> >
> > --
> > Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
> > Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany
> > Fax:   +49 421 200 3103         <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
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