Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: New Version Notification for draft-liu-isis-auto-conf-04.txt
"Liubing (Leo)" <leo.liubing@huawei.com> Mon, 08 June 2015 10:41 UTC
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From: "Liubing (Leo)" <leo.liubing@huawei.com>
To: Karsten Thomann <karsten_thomann@linfre.de>
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: New Version Notification for draft-liu-isis-auto-conf-04.txt
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Hi Karsten, Please see replies inline. From: Karsten Thomann [mailto:karsten_thomann@linfre.de] Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 9:35 PM To: Liubing (Leo) Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: New Version Notification for draft-liu-isis-auto-conf-04.txt Hi, please see inline. Am Freitag, 5. Juni 2015, 06:44:47 schrieb Liubing: > Hi Karsten, > > Thanks for your review and comments. Please see replies inline. > > From: Karsten Thomann [mailto:karsten_thomann@linfre.de] > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 5:36 AM > To: isis-wg@ietf.org<mailto:isis-wg@ietf.org> > Cc: Liubing (Leo) > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: New Version > Notification for draft-liu-isis-auto-conf-04.txt > > > Hi, > > > > some comments after reading the draft: > > > > I'm not really convinced that this will really be implemented in a home > network or small enterprise networks, as ISIS isn't a protocol widely > supported on that platforms. > > I was thinking more about shortest path bridging switch autodiscovery, but > this is only my own opinion. > > > > [Bing] I agree ISIS is not widely supported on small devices nowadays. But I > think it might has the potential in the future. > > Actually, In Homenet the ISIS is already in the short list for their routing > protocol choice > (http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mrw-homenet-rtg-comparison/) And > there is also some operator showed explicit requirement for ISIS in home > routers. > > > > Furthermore, the scope might not only limit to home/enterprise scenarios. > Maybe the operators would find this auto-conf tool is also benefit for them > one day:) I didn't wanted to start a real discussion, only express my personal concern that it is unlikely to be supported in home networks, but likely in other areas where ISIS has advantages against OSPF. [Bing] Expression and discussion is always good:) Thanks. > > Regarding 3.3.2: > > What is exactly the duplication resolution, if the NET is used by an ISIS > Router not capable of autoconfig? > > In my opinion the device which is auto config capable MUST recalculate its > NET, if the other router does not advertise a Router-Fingerprint TLV. > > [Bing] The autoconfig should be a dedicated ISIS process that it won't be > mixed with the non-autoconf routers. This is prevented by the > Authentication TLV as described in 3.4.1. Yes and no, the draft uses a MUST for the ability to change the password, and there are possible cases where it is indended by design to use somewhere a link between a autoconf based network and the not autoconf network... I my opinion it's a bit weak argument to not specify that behavior explicitly. [Bing] I think it's good to explicitly specify the behavior. But I'd prefer the behavior to be abandoning the LSP rather than recalculating its NET. In this case, the router without a Router-Fingerprin TLV just could not joint in the autoconf process, even if the authentication TLV is correct. How do you think about it? Best regards, Bing > > > I'm not able to find a similar approach for the OSPF RFC, as it seems to > have the same problem. > > >
- [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: New Ve… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Karsten Thomann
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Uma Chunduri
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Karsten Thomann
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Karsten Thomann
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Karsten Thomann
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Karsten Thomann
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- Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS-autoconf-04 submitted //FW: Ne… Liubing (Leo)
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