Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt
Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com> Tue, 27 May 2014 01:26 UTC
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From: Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com>
To: Hannes Gredler <hannes@juniper.net>
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Cc: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>, "isis-wg@ietf.org list" <isis-wg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt
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Hi Hannes, Sure, this is workable. Thanks, Mach > -----Original Message----- > From: Hannes Gredler [mailto:hannes@juniper.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:28 PM > To: Mach Chen > Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); isis-wg@ietf.org list > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt > > hi mach, > > having a registry which is under 'expert-review' and given that one of those > experts is the WG chair, allows us to have some some 'flexibility' > for early implementers. > > /hannes > > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 08:21:24AM +0000, Mach Chen wrote: > | Les, > | > | Yes, if there are early implementations, a code point is necessary and a formal > early allocation process is needed as well. > | > | Best regards, > | Mach > | > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) [mailto:ginsberg@cisco.com] > | > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:45 PM > | > To: Mach Chen; Hannes Gredler > | > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > | > Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > | > draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt > | > > | > Mach - > | > > | > The issue is what to do with early implementations. In general we > | > encourage people to implement drafts so as to gain experience and > | > identfiy any issues ("we believe in running code..."). If the > | > codepoints change between the time it becomes a WG doc and the time > | > it becomes an RFC this can present issues for early implementations. > | > > | > Although a more formal early allocation process is needed (and has > | > been recently > | > discussed) - and this draft is not yet a WG doc - which would be > | > necessary to qualify for early allocation - I think specifying a code point is a > better strategy. > | > > | > Les > | > > | > > -----Original Message----- > | > > From: Mach Chen [mailto:mach.chen@huawei.com] > | > > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:10 AM > | > > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Hannes Gredler > | > > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > | > > Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > | > > draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- discriminator-00.txt > | > > > | > > Les and Hannes, > | > > > | > > A better way to avoid conflict is not to specify a particular code > | > > in the draft, and just using TBD instead. > | > > > | > > Best regards, > | > > Mach > | > > > | > > > -----Original Message----- > | > > > From: Isis-wg [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Les > | > > Ginsberg > | > > > (ginsberg) > | > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 11:35 PM > | > > > To: Hannes Gredler > | > > > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > | > > > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > | > > > draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt > | > > > > | > > > Hannes - > | > > > > | > > > You are right - though I was looking at the latest link on the IS-IS WG page. > | > > :-) > | > > > > | > > > Anyways, no problem w resolving the conflict - we will specify a > | > > > different > | > > value in > | > > > the next version. > | > > > > | > > > Les > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > -----Original Message----- > | > > > > From: Hannes Gredler [mailto:hannes@juniper.net] > | > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:23 AM > | > > > > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > | > > > > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > | > > > > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > | > > > > draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- discriminator-00.txt > | > > > > > | > > > > les, > | > > > > > | > > > > you are not looking at the latest doc. > | > > > > > | > > > > please see > | > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-isis-segment-routi > | > > > > ng- > | > > > > extensions/?include_text=1 > | > > > > > | > > > > section 4.3 > | > > > > > | > > > > /hannes > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > On May 14, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > | > > > > > | > > > > > Hannes - > | > > > > > > | > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > | > > > > >> From: Isis-wg [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > | > > > > >> Of Hannes Gredler > | > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:02 AM > | > > > > >> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > | > > > > >> Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org list > | > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] New Version Notification for > | > > > > >> draft-ginsberg-isis- > | > > > > sbfd- > | > > > > >> discriminator-00.txt > | > > > > >> > | > > > > >> hi les, > | > > > > >> > | > > > > >> subTLV 19 clashes with Segment Routing Algorithm - suggest > | > > > > >> that you use code point #20 instead. > | > > > > > > | > > > > > I am happy to avoid conflicts - but the latest IS-IS SR > | > > > > > draft > | > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-previdi-isis-segment-routing- > | > > > > exte > | > > > > nsio > | > > > > ns-05 > | > > > > > specifies sub-TLV 2 (SR Capabilities) and sub-TLV 15 (SR algorithm). > | > > > > > See > | > > > > Section 3. > | > > > > > > | > > > > > Now "15" has already been assigned by RFC 7176 (AKA RFC > | > > > > > 6362bis) - so > | > > > > clearly this has to change. > | > > > > > > | > > > > > If you want "19" to get used for SR that's fine with me - > | > > > > > but guess this > | > > > > illustrates the value of early allocation. :-) > | > > > > > > | > > > > > Les > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > >> > | > > > > >> tx, > | > > > > >> > | > > > > >> /hannes > | > > > > >> > | > > > > >> On May 8, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > | > > > > >> > | > > > > >>> FYI - this new draft describes how to advertise S-BFD > | > > > > >>> Discriminators > | > > > > using > | > > > > >> IS-IS. > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> Comments are welcomed. > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> Les > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > | > > > > >>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > | > > > > >>> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > | > > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 7:46 AM > | > > > > >>> To: Mach Chen; Nobo Akiya (nobo); Mach Chen; Les Ginsberg > | > > > > >>> (ginsberg); > | > > > > >> Nobo Akiya (nobo); Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > | > > > > >>> Subject: New Version Notification for > | > > > > >>> draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- > | > > > > >> discriminator-00.txt > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> A new version of I-D, > | > > > > >>> draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator-00.txt > | > > > > >>> has been successfully submitted by Les Ginsberg and posted > | > > > > >>> to the IETF repository. > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> Name: draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd-discriminator > | > > > > >>> Revision: 00 > | > > > > >>> Title: Advertising S-BFD Discriminators in IS-IS > | > > > > >>> Document date: 2014-05-08 > | > > > > >>> Group: Individual Submission > | > > > > >>> Pages: 5 > | > > > > >>> URL: > | > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- > | > > > > >> discriminator-00.txt > | > > > > >>> Status: > | > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- > | > > > > >> discriminator/ > | > > > > >>> Htmlized: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ginsberg-isis-sbfd- > | > > > > >> discriminator-00 > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> Abstract: > | > > > > >>> This document defines a means of advertising one or more > | > > > > >>> S-BFD Discriminators using the IS-IS Router Capability TLV. > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the > | > > > > >>> time of > | > > > > >> submission > | > > > > >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> The IETF Secretariat > | > > > > >>> > | > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > | > > > > >>> Isis-wg mailing list > | > > > > >>> Isis-wg@ietf.org > | > > > > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > | > > > > >> > | > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > | > > > > >> Isis-wg mailing list > | > > > > >> Isis-wg@ietf.org > | > > > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > | > > > > | > > > _______________________________________________ > | > > > Isis-wg mailing list > | > > > Isis-wg@ietf.org > | > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > | > | _______________________________________________ > | Isis-wg mailing list > | Isis-wg@ietf.org > | https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg
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