Re: [Isis-wg] WG Adoption poll for draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Wed, 28 June 2017 18:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] WG Adoption poll for draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app
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Hi Chris, WG,


> Second, they are more flexible and useful, because they do not attempt to
> define specific applications.

That is precisely the reason which actually makes draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app
superior then your alternatives discussed at last IETF in Chicago.

I highly support adoption of draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app as a WG document.

Kind regards,
Robert Raszuk.


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net> wrote:

> ISIS WG,
>
> I oppose adoption of this draft as a working group item.
>
> After the discussion in Chicago, I proposed alternative encodings that use
> the
> concept of an attribute set that I was hopeful would be incorporated in a
> merged
> draft on this topic.
>
> These are described in the following email.
>  https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/isis-wg/current/msg05081.html
>
> I believe that these alternative encodings have two main advantages over
> those
> proposed in draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app.
>
> First, they are much less disruptive to existing deployments using the
> existing
> TE attributes, and they provide a less disruptive migration path.
>
> Second, they are more flexible and useful, because they do not attempt to
> define specific applications.
>
> I am happy to publish the alternative encodings as a stand-alone draft.  I
> did
> not do so initially in the interest of promoting compromise after the
> discussion in
> Chicago.  However, the basic encodings in draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app have
> not changed
> significantly.  They do not capture the advantages of the alternative
> encodings described above.
>
> Given the current lack of compromise reflected in
> draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app, I think
> that the text is not a good basis for working group work on this topic.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Isis-wg [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christian
> Hopps
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> Subject: [Isis-wg] WG Adoption poll for draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> The authors have requested the IS-IS WG adopt
>
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app/
>
> as a working group document. Please indicate your support or no-support
> for taking on this work.
>
> Authors: Please indicate your knowledge of any IPR related to this work to
> the list as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris & Hannes.
>
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