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Re: [Isis-wg] WG Adoption poll for draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app

"Naiming Shen (naiming)" <naiming@cisco.com> Wed, 28 June 2017 18:58 UTC

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From: "Naiming Shen (naiming)" <naiming@cisco.com>
To: Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net>
CC: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>, "isis-wg@ietf.org" <isis-wg@ietf.org>, "isis-chairs@ietf.org" <isis-chairs@ietf.org>, "draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app.authors@ietf.org" <draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app.authors@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] WG Adoption poll for draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app
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Support.

- Naiming

> On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net> wrote:
> 
> ISIS WG,
> 
> I oppose adoption of this draft as a working group item.
> 
> After the discussion in Chicago, I proposed alternative encodings that use the 
> concept of an attribute set that I was hopeful would be incorporated in a merged 
> draft on this topic.
> 
> These are described in the following email.
> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/isis-wg/current/msg05081.html
> 
> I believe that these alternative encodings have two main advantages over those
> proposed in draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app.
> 
> First, they are much less disruptive to existing deployments using the existing 
> TE attributes, and they provide a less disruptive migration path.
> 
> Second, they are more flexible and useful, because they do not attempt to
> define specific applications.  
> 
> I am happy to publish the alternative encodings as a stand-alone draft.  I did 
> not do so initially in the interest of promoting compromise after the discussion in 
> Chicago.  However, the basic encodings in draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app have not changed 
> significantly.  They do not capture the advantages of the alternative encodings described above.
> 
> Given the current lack of compromise reflected in draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app, I think
> that the text is not a good basis for working group work on this topic.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [Isis-wg] WG Adoption poll for draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app
> 
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> The authors have requested the IS-IS WG adopt
> 
>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-isis-te-app/
> 
> as a working group document. Please indicate your support or no-support for taking on this work.
> 
> Authors: Please indicate your knowledge of any IPR related to this work to the list as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris & Hannes.
> 
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