Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987DA120071 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2019 01:55:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.988 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.988 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HK_NAME_FM_MR_MRS=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ta2u3nVX9RG for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2019 01:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr1-x42e.google.com (mail-wr1-x42e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92B7012003F for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2019 01:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id z11so10675225wrt.4 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2019 01:55:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=MOTLIpq6XLtC+rHHkuCx3VfuBZBcg7yona+X+awsXKo=; b=WnOAAuYSOagmmn58UZp5g6iyfKk3lCfYICwuOUhf+/tembGe5JngXUjqhvkDixg6U7 QGkY/Te3S669qZoZZtyruGccfI/k3aIuW1wfQts/MQ+T6s/iU6y2RC4OHb2bHXsPqjMH 5puG5OqyCFiVnjPtw2wO0UqQQWoDeSAljKjXvHyljMDa11sHexB4c1/HK3IRzqRrU7AM JpkDAmp3vFKn3UgKN+mYDIhQf0Cgk6LrF6aSbllIbNLxy7qmw8z8p7n468lX4OIvjmXz Zm9nEzMO2IC9C9JQKP8ku3WhllF39GT/kqVapwbuAr5lvNO1rTSFVX9VC34HEG2ytz0v IZEw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MOTLIpq6XLtC+rHHkuCx3VfuBZBcg7yona+X+awsXKo=; b=ixKapc2bUT2tpgJzgXjvI5CMwjO6GpWhx+yWC6voBcfH10h4lSzSikWkaNL0KKAFsS Wsg3/4aNGsj18A6zqHct6B6tROLbdMPmxLYAnwwisL74Z5PGYKVILRwep5AY5x7tVWi5 68lSwHvL5oje1S+Qh2TRHGh4639/0UUnQ0+KHR3m1tVJTsOLMTy7xOGDc3FlL71D8KVz 0ENGrzoifxAV9NO6XfLsCymrRfkM5azfn055MBI/Fg4ZkIWb929D2Anriv90qBVk/5bG TM6HmOAjIPvXZslFwD8RWkSLw9qczrltltj2LYHmVQkeamuY33eQQosC5HcF6oNQo7wL mTIw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXiqtbGsxnAPtqOtpAHyFjLLTOsdbazXydut4A+89TTM5+FMNXy o3JVP8ip9ZGfQS1Og6cbco3bdWSfu21Kh/HdTa4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwBw+CUrgqIcdg949Mh885K+GO3/eFxbe3qN+LLZkImt3BzNE6u2zIy9vwZdpZulU7+Bu53ZDDReYHDpMaZtLw= X-Received: by 2002:adf:e790:: with SMTP id n16mr9696676wrm.120.1566636944953; Sat, 24 Aug 2019 01:55:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <92B3C3FD-4555-4BBB-9586-6997ABD409FB@kaloom.com> In-Reply-To: From: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 17:55:13 +0900 Message-ID: To: Russ Housley Cc: its , Suresh Krishnan , skku_iotlab_seminar@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000098938c0590d91679" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 08:55:51 -0000 --00000000000098938c0590d91679 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Russ and Carlos, My SKKU team have been working for IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery for IETF-104 and IETF-105. For IETF-106, my team are working for IPWAVE Mobility Management. The IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team and Sandra Cespedes for next revision. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-neighbor-discovery/ The IPWAVE Mobility Management draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team and Sri Gundavelli for next revision. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/ For the IPWAVE PS draft, Charlie Perkins was supposed to confirm whether my revision satisfies his comments or not. For one month, there was no feedback from him. It seems like he cannot afford to review it due to his personal issues. I would like to ask you as IPWAVE WG chairs to be able to lead our group more actively by reviewing the PS draft and submitting it to the IESG through the WG last call. After the completion of the IPWAVE PS draft, our group will be able to discuss the rechartering and new work items. By the way, I met an engineer from the Hyundai automotive to discuss IPWAVE-based applications for vehicles. His team implemented a remote charging system control protocol for electric vehicles using IEEE 802.11n, and will use IEEE 802.11-OCB for this system. His team are looking for use cases of IPWAVE protocols such as context-aware navigator to show neighbor vehicles and pedestrians. If IPWAVE WG is closed, we will lose the opportunity to enable our IPWAVE work items described in the PS draft that are the near-future demands in automotive industry. As my personal request, it will be great to have a short IPWAVE WG session this Singapore meeting. Thanks. Best Regards, Paul On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:22 AM Russ Housley wrote: > Dear IPWAVE WG: > > We do not see the need for a meeting in Singapore. We believe that mail > list discussion is needed to wrap up the Problem Statement document. > > We observe that the energy in this WG is pretty low. As a result, we are > quite reluctant to re-charter to tackle new work items. The Problem > Statement document includes many potential topics, but without a great deal > more energy, this WG does not seem to be the right place to tackle them. > This means that the IPWAVE WG will be closed down once the current charter > is complete unless the chairs and our AD see a significant increase in > energy for one or more potential work items. This will be measured by > individual Internet-Draft posting and mail list discussion of them. > > Russ and Carlos > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --00000000000098938c0590d91679 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Russ and Carlos,
My SKKU team have been working for= IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery for IETF-104 and IETF-105.
For IETF-10= 6, my team are working for IPWAVE Mobility Management.
The IPWAVE= Neighbor Discovery draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team and=C2=A0Sandr= a Cespedes
for next revision.
=C2=A0
The IPWAVE Mobi= lity Management draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team and=C2=A0Sri Gunda= velli
for next revision.

For the IPWAVE PS draft,= Charlie Perkins was supposed to confirm whether my revision satisfies his= =C2=A0
comments or not. For one month, there was no feedback from= him.
It seems like he cannot afford to review it due to his = personal issues.

I would like to ask you as IPWAVE= WG chairs to be able to lead our group more actively by=C2=A0
re= viewing the PS draft and submitting it to the IESG through the WG last call= .

After the completion of the IPWAVE PS draft, our= group will be able to discuss the rechartering and=C2=A0
new wor= k items.

By the way, I met an engineer from the Hy= undai automotive to discuss IPWAVE-based applications=C2=A0
for v= ehicles. His team implemented a remote charging system control protocol for= electric vehicles
using IEEE 802.11n, and will use IEEE 802.11-O= CB for this system.
His team are looking for use cases of IPWAVE = protocols such as context-aware navigator to show
neighbor vehicl= es and pedestrians.

If IPWAVE WG is closed, we wil= l lose the opportunity to enable our IPWAVE work items described in the PS = draft
that are the near-future demands in automotive industry.

As my personal request, it will be great to have a s= hort IPWAVE WG session this Singapore meeting.

Tha= nks.

Best Regards,
Paul

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On Sat, Aug= 24, 2019 at 12:22 AM Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
Dear IPWAVE WG:

We do not see the need for a meeting in Singapore.=C2=A0 We believe that ma= il list discussion is needed to wrap up the Problem Statement document.

We observe that the energy in this WG is pretty low.=C2=A0 As a result, we = are quite reluctant to re-charter to tackle new work items.=C2=A0 The Probl= em Statement document includes many potential topics, but without a great d= eal more energy, this WG does not seem to be the right place to tackle them= .=C2=A0 This means that the IPWAVE WG will be closed down once the current = charter is complete unless the chairs and our AD see a significant increase= in energy for one or more potential work items.=C2=A0 This will be measure= d by individual Internet-Draft posting and mail list discussion of them.
Russ and Carlos

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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeon= g, Ph.D.
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Department of Software
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