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Perkins" Cc: Russ Housley , CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO , =?UTF-8?B?4oCcWmV1bmctaWwgS2lt4oCd?= , skku_iotlab_seminar@googlegroups.com, Suresh Krishnan , its@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c3428a05922dc696" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:23:15 -0000 --000000000000c3428a05922dc696 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Charlie, For editorial comments, you can send me in a personal email. For discussion issues, you can post them in the IPWAVE mailing list. Thanks. Best Regards, Paul 2019=EB=85=84 9=EC=9B=94 10=EC=9D=BC (=ED=99=94) =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 1:15, C= harlie Perkins =EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: > Hello folks, > > I've been reviewing the document. > > I expect to send my review tomorrow. Should I post it to the list? Most > of the comments are editorial. > > Regards, > Charlie P. > On 9/5/2019 5:41 PM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote: > > Hi Russ and Carlos, > It seems like Charlie cannot afford to review the revised IPWAVE PS draft > due to his work. > > Could you review the IPWAVE PS draft as chairs for the WGLC? > > BTW, could we have a short WG session in this Singapore meeting to report > the progress of the IPWAVE PS draft? > > My SKKU team are preparing for IPWAVE Hackathon Project for IPWAVE > mobility management in IETF-106 Singapore meeting. > This experience will be useful to discuss our next step. > Also, I am planning to implement the IPWAVE basic protocols such as IPv6 > over 802.11-OCB, Vehicular Neighbor Discovery, and > Vehicular Mobility Management in Ubuntu Linux early next year. > In this IETF-106 meeting, we can discuss our next step. > If there is no official IPWAVE WG meeting, I want to have a bar meeting > with IPWAVE WG members during the IETF-106 meeting.. > > Recently, I had a meeting with a principal engineer (Mr. Zeung-il Kim) > from Hyundai Motor, which is the major automotive company in Korea. > His team has interest in implementing IPv6 over 802.11-OCB for the > vehicular services such as remote charging system, > context-aware navigator and infotainment for electric vehicles. > I will have a meeting with his team this September again. > > As you want, our IPWAVE WG need to go to the next step for the realizatio= n > of IPWAVE for the industry's demands > in the coming autonomous vehicle era. > > Thanks for your kind considerations on my request. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:31 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < > jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Charlie, >> Do you need more time to finish the review? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Best Regards, >> Paul >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 2:52 AM Charlie Perkins < >> charles.perkins@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> Hello Paul, >>> >>> Please excuse my delay. I will get the review done in the next week. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Charlie P. >>> On 8/24/2019 1:55 AM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote: >>> >>> Hi Russ and Carlos, >>> My SKKU team have been working for IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery for >>> IETF-104 and IETF-105. >>> For IETF-106, my team are working for IPWAVE Mobility Management. >>> The IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team >>> and Sandra Cespedes >>> for next revision. >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-neighbor-= discovery/ >>> >>> >>> The IPWAVE Mobility Management draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team >>> and Sri Gundavelli >>> for next revision. >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-= management/ >>> >>> >>> >>> For the IPWAVE PS draft, Charlie Perkins was supposed to confirm whethe= r >>> my revision satisfies his >>> comments or not. For one month, there was no feedback from him. >>> It seems like he cannot afford to review it due to his personal issues. >>> >>> I would like to ask you as IPWAVE WG chairs to be able to lead our grou= p >>> more actively by >>> reviewing the PS draft and submitting it to the IESG through the WG las= t >>> call.. >>> >>> After the completion of the IPWAVE PS draft, our group will be able to >>> discuss the rechartering and >>> new work items. >>> >>> By the way, I met an engineer from the Hyundai automotive to discuss >>> IPWAVE-based applications >>> for vehicles. His team implemented a remote charging system control >>> protocol for electric vehicles >>> using IEEE 802.11n, and will use IEEE 802.11-OCB for this system. >>> His team are looking for use cases of IPWAVE protocols such as >>> context-aware navigator to show >>> neighbor vehicles and pedestrians. >>> >>> If IPWAVE WG is closed, we will lose the opportunity to enable our >>> IPWAVE work items described in the PS draft >>> that are the near-future demands in automotive industry. >>> >>> As my personal request, it will be great to have a short IPWAVE WG >>> session this Singapore meeting. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Paul >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:22 AM Russ Housley >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear IPWAVE WG: >>>> >>>> We do not see the need for a meeting in Singapore. We believe that >>>> mail list discussion is needed to wrap up the Problem Statement docume= nt. >>>> >>>> We observe that the energy in this WG is pretty low. As a result, we >>>> are quite reluctant to re-charter to tackle new work items. The Probl= em >>>> Statement document includes many potential topics, but without a great= deal >>>> more energy, this WG does not seem to be the right place to tackle the= m.. >>>> This means that the IPWAVE WG will be closed down once the current cha= rter >>>> is complete unless the chairs and our AD see a significant increase in >>>> energy for one or more potential work items. This will be measured by >>>> individual Internet-Draft posting and mail list discussion of them. >>>> >>>> Russ and Carlos >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> its mailing list >>>> its@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D >>> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >>> Associate Professor >>> Department of Software >>> Sungkyunkwan University >>> Office: +82-31-299-4957 >>> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu >>> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> its mailing listits@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>> >>> >> >> -- >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D >> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >> Associate Professor >> Department of Software >> Sungkyunkwan University >> Office: +82-31-299-4957 >> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu >> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >> >> > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D > Mr.. 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Hi Charlie,
For editorial comments, you = can send me in a personal email.

For discussion issues, you can post them in the IPWAVE mailing li= st.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul

2019=EB=85=84 9=EC=9B=94 10=EC=9D=BC (=ED=99=94) =EC=98=A4=ED=9B= =84 1:15, Charlie Perkins <charles.perkins@earthlink.net>=EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84= =B1:
=20 =20 =20

Hello folks,

I've been reviewing the document.

I expect to send my review tomorrow.=C2=A0 Should I post it to the list?=C2=A0 Most of the comments are editorial.

Regards,
Charlie P.

On 9/5/2019 5:41 PM= , Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote:
=20
Hi Russ and Carlos,
It seems like Charlie cannot afford to review the revised IPWAVE PS draft due to his work.

Could you review the IPWAVE PS draft as chairs for the WGLC?

BTW, could we have a short WG session in this Singapore meeting to report the progress of the IPWAVE PS draft?

My SKKU team are preparing for IPWAVE Hackathon Project for IPWAVE mobility management in IETF-106 Singapore meeting.
This experience will be useful to discuss our next step.
Also, I am planning to implement the IPWAVE basic protocols such as IPv6 over 802.11-OCB, Vehicular Neighbor Discovery, and=C2=A0
Vehicular Mobility Management in Ubuntu Linux early next year.
In this IETF-106 meeting, we can discuss our next step.
If there is no official IPWAVE WG meeting, I want to have a bar meeting with IPWAVE WG members during the IETF-106 meeting..

Recently, I had a meeting with a principal engineer (Mr. Zeung-il Kim) from Hyundai Motor, which is the major automotive company in Korea.
His team has interest in implementing IPv6 over 802.11-OCB for the vehicular services such as remote charging system,=C2=A0<= /div>
context-aware navigator and infotainment for electric vehicles.
I will have a meeting with his team this September again.

As you want, our IPWAVE WG need to go to the next step for the realization of IPWAVE for the industry's demands
in the coming autonomous vehicle era.

Thanks for your kind considerations on my request.

Best Regards,
Paul


On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:31 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> = wrote:
Hi Charlie,
Do you need more time to finish the review?

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul


On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 2:52 AM Charlie Perkins <charles.perkins@earthl= ink.net> wrote:

Hello Paul,

Please excuse my delay.=C2=A0 I will get the review done in the next week.

Regards,
Charlie P.

Hi Russ and Carlos,
My SKKU team have been working for IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery for IETF-104 and IETF-105.
For IETF-106, my team are working for IPWAVE Mobility Management.
The IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team and=C2=A0Sandra Cespedes
for next revision.
=C2=A0
The IPWAVE Mobility Management draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team and=C2=A0Sri Gundavelli
for next revision.

For the IPWAVE PS draft, Charlie Perkins was supposed to confirm whether my revision satisfies his=C2=A0
comments or not. For one month, there was no feedback from him.
It seems like he cannot afford to review it due to his personal issues.

I would like to ask you as IPWAVE WG chairs to be able to lead our group more actively by=C2=A0
reviewing the PS draft and submitting it to the IESG through the WG last call..

After the completion of the IPWAVE PS draft, our group will be able to discuss the rechartering and=C2=A0
new work items.

By the way, I met an engineer from the Hyundai automotive to discuss IPWAVE-based applications=C2=A0=
for vehicles. His team implemented a remote charging system control protocol for electric vehicles
using IEEE 802.11n, and will use IEEE 802.11-OCB for this system.
His team are looking for use cases of IPWAVE protocols such as context-aware navigator to show
neighbor vehicles and pedestrians.

If IPWAVE WG is closed, we will lose the opportunity to enable our IPWAVE work items described in the PS draft
that are the near-future demands in automotive industry.

As my personal request, it will be great to have a short IPWAVE WG session this Singapore meeting.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:22 AM Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.= com> wrote:
Dear = IPWAVE WG:

We do not see the need for a meeting in Singapore.=C2=A0 We believe that mail list discussion is needed to wrap up the Problem Statement document.

We observe that the energy in this WG is pretty low.=C2=A0 As a result, we are quite reluctant to re-charter to tackle new work items.=C2=A0 The Proble= m Statement document includes many potential topics, but without a great deal more energy, this WG does not seem to be the right place to tackle them..=C2=A0 This means that the IPWAVE WG will be closed down once the current charter is complete unless the chairs and our AD see a significant increase in energy for one or more potential work items.=C2=A0 Th= is will be measured by individual Internet-Draft posting and mail list discussion of them.

Russ and Carlos

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