Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey?

Rex Buddenberg <buddenbergr@gmail.com> Wed, 21 June 2017 04:18 UTC

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From: Rex Buddenberg <buddenbergr@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey?
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Paul,

Use case:

---------------------------

Instrumented emergency vehicle use case

Emergency vehicles include ambulances, fire engines, police cruisers,
snowplows and more.  The reason for isolating this use case is that
this class of vehicles shares the communications requirements of all
vehicles but has some more and more extreme requirements.  In many
cases, meeting the requirements for emergency vehicles will result in
exceeding the requirements for the family sedan.

Scenario.  

Consider an ambulance with one or more casualties inside.  These
patients will have vital signs monitors attached to them.  The
ambulance itself needs to deliver the casualties to a hospital.  The
ambulance, of course, must navigate in traffic – a characteristic of
most scenarios but with urgency attached.

- a LAN within the vehicle has the patient monitors attached to
it.  Additionally, the ambulance attendant would need at least one
attachment in order to speak with an emergency room doctor.  The
requirement is to telemeter the casualties' vital signs to the hospital
and over-shoulder advice from the ER doctor to the attendant.

- the driver needs communications with dispatching to telemeter track
data (position), receive dispatching orders, telemeter vehicle data
(e.g. gas tank level).

- the ambulance needs to communicate with other vehicles on the
road.  Collision avoidance, right-of-way warning (i.e. siren), traffic
light control.

While using an ambulance as example, all emergency vehicles have
similar needs.


Requirements distillation:

Security.  All data in the above illustrations must be verifiably
authentic.  Some data (such as the patient vital signs) requires
confidentiality.  In some cases (e.g. police car stakeout) low
probability of detection of the radio-WAN communications is required.  

Availability.  Most automotive applications require high availability
(Ao defined as up time divided by total time), emergency services are
the most demanding.  Typically four 9s.  This requirement cannot
usually be met with a single radio-WAN; multiple WAN interfaces on the
routers required, with the appropriate protocol capabilities.

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Not a formally published paper, but the draft doesn't require that.






On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 06:56 +0900, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote:
> Hi Rex,
> As you mentioned, the revision of this draft will include the papers
> for use cases that are based on
> vehicular networking as follows:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------
> Hwang T and Jeong J., "SANA: Safety-Aware Navigation
> Application for pedestrian protection in vehicular networks",
> In: Proceedings of the 2nd international conference
> on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, China, 19–21
> December 2015, pp.127–138. Switzerland: Springer
> 
> Kim J, Jo Y and Jeong J., "Design and evaluation of a
> smartphone-based alarming system for pedestrian safety
> in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of the 2nd international
> conference on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu,
> China, 19–21 December 2015, pp.221–233. Switzerland:
> Springer.
> 
> Shen Y, Jeong J, Oh T, et al., "CASD: a framework of
> context-awareness safety driving in vehicular networks",
> In: Proceedings of the 30th international conference on
> advanced information networking and applications
> workshops—device centric cloud (DC2), Crans-Montana,
> Switzerland, 23–25 March 2016, pp.252–257.
> 
> Koukoumidis E, Peh L-S and Martonosi M. "SignalGuru:
> leveraging mobile phones for collaborative traffic signal
> schedule advisory", In: Proceedings of the 9th international
> conference on mobile systems, applications, and services
> (MobiSys), Washington, DC, 28 June–1 July 2011,
> pp.127–140. New York: ACM.
> 
> Jeong J, Jeong H, Lee E, et al., "SAINT: self-adaptive
> interactive navigation tool for cloud-based vehicular traffic
> optimization", IEEE Transactions on Vehicular Technology, 2016;
> 65(6):
> 4053–4067.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------
> 
> Thanks for your comments.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Paul
> 
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Rex Buddenberg <buddenbergr@gmail.co
> m> wrote:
> > Russ, et al,
> > 
> > As a _survey_, this ID is fine.  There is value in simply
> > cataloging
> > the somewhat scattered efforts in one place.  So I'm thinking we
> > should
> > adopt as 'state of the art in the field'.  So I guess I'm ^ vis
> > adoption.
> >      But there are no use cases in the ID itself, only some of the
> > references.  Therefore the ID does not meet the charter call.  ...
> > at
> > least not yet.
> >      Further, there doesn't seem to be much of a sorting model or
> > taxonomy.  What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong's intent)
> > is
> > what is needed but not present.  The use cases should lead to a
> > taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those signposts
> > be
> > present?  Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing external
> > to
> > this draft?
> > 
> > b
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote:
> > > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an
> > Informational
> > > document:
> > >
> > >    This group will work on an informational document
> > >    that will explain the state of the art in the field and
> > describe
> > >    the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of
> > >    the group.
> > >
> > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-
> > networking-
> > > survey
> > > as the starting point for this deliverable?
> > >
> > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular
> > -net
> > > working-survey/
> > >
> > > Russ
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